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[TercieI]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

any posts to a good setup would be cool as its always appreciated especially for new players like me

Her name is Cottontail:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...169afed9e1754ae

ML/SL/armor/AMS to taste. My feeling is that the ML are indispensable as a backup/alpha kickup weapon, but mo' ammo, mo' betta ain't a crazy thought either. I like to fire all four ACs together as a long-range, fast cycling AC/20 but I have them grouped L/R and some people like to stagger fire. IMO, that spreads damage, generally weakening the build, but I keep them split up for hills and corners.

Edited by Terciel1976, 02 February 2014 - 08:09 AM.

[Victor Morson]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

any posts to a good setup would be cool as its always appreciated especially for new players like me

Ilya Standard UAC

Feel free to live dangerously and slap an XL + Meds in for pugging, but this is a pretty brutal shooter. Remember you use your head ammo first, followed by right torso ammo (if the order is still the same), so once you've burned a bunch of shots, block with your right side to minimize ammo explosion risks.

[Victor Morson]

Terciel1976, on 02 February 2014 - 08:08 AM, said:

Her name is Cottontail:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...169afed9e1754ae

All good except...

NEVER
EVER
DROP LEG ARMOR
AND FILL IT WITH AMMO!

heh, in all seriousness, you need to fix that. Re-up the leg armor in general and definitely, positively don't stuff half-armor legs full of ammunition! I don't even like running ammo in the legs on a fully armored 'mech most of the time but this is a terrible idea.

Fortunately it's an easy fix for a single ton of ammo. Leg armor is STILL a tad lighter than I'd like, but much improved (and not explody.)

Cottontail Repaired

EDIT: I am absolutely not joking when I say a single strike from the right 'mech could blow your 4X up in a single shot with a bit of luck the way you've got it setup. AC/20 + 2x PPC for example would easily crit into the leg and stand a chance of igniting ammo instantaneously.

Edited by Victor Morson, 02 February 2014 - 08:18 AM.

[TercieI]

Victor Morson, on 02 February 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Ilya Standard UAC

Feel free to live dangerously and slap an XL + Meds in for pugging, but this is a pretty brutal shooter. Remember you use your head ammo first, followed by right torso ammo (if the order is still the same), so once you've burned a bunch of shots, block with your right side to minimize ammo explosion risks.

Nasty. I'm just getting to the point ELO-wise where I'm starting to hate running XLs in my big mechs. Going to have to steal this.

Victor Morson, on 02 February 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

All good except...

NEVER
EVER
DROP LEG ARMOR
AND FILL IT WITH AMMO!

heh, in all seriousness, you need to fix that. Re-up the leg armor in general and definitely, positively don't stuff half-armor legs full of ammunition! I don't even like running ammo in the legs on a fully armored 'mech most of the time but this is a terrible idea.

Fortunately it's an easy fix.
Cottontail Repaired

Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. It's a build I hadn't looked at in a while and I had the same thought. (See above, these weaknesses are now getting exposed)

Victor Morson, on 02 February 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

EDIT: I am absolutely not joking when I say a single strike from the right 'mech could blow your 4X up in a single shot with a bit of luck the way you've got it setup. AC/20 + 2x PPC for example would easily crit into the leg and stand a chance of igniting ammo instantaneously.

EDIT: Yeah, I know. There is a lot you can get away with in low to mid ELO (and even profit from) that starts to cost you higher up.

[Ghastous]

Victor Morson, on 02 February 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Ilya Standard UAC

Feel free to live dangerously and slap an XL + Meds in for pugging, but this is a pretty brutal shooter. Remember you use your head ammo first, followed by right torso ammo (if the order is still the same), so once you've burned a bunch of shots, block with your right side to minimize ammo explosion risks.

The hero mech already comes with a XL planted firmly in so no need to slap 1 in also why would u take a XL engine out for a standard do XL cause more problems then standard or something?

[TercieI]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

The hero mech already comes with a XL planted firmly in so no need to slap 1 in also why would u take a XL engine out for a standard do XL cause more problems then standard or something?

You die if you lose a ST with an XL. Huge difference in survivability.

EDIT: Also, good players will be able to tell which you're running from your loadout and if they see you're running an XL, will target STs because they can kill you faster that way.

Edited by Terciel1976, 02 February 2014 - 08:55 AM.

[GLIZZY GULPER]

Pfft, look at everyone flaunting their backup weapons around.

Wimps.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...901f19cf6c9fa9a

BE A MAN

Edited by TalRavis, 02 February 2014 - 08:57 AM.

[Ghastous]

so if your mech is running a XL ur more prone to dieing if they take out a ST so wat is a ST lol all these short words i have no clue as im new

[TercieI]

TalRavis, on 02 February 2014 - 08:54 AM, said:

Pfft, look at everyone flaunting their backup weapons around.

Wimps.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...901f19cf6c9fa9a

BE A MAN

1) 30 point alpha vs. 20 in key situations

2) I've shot it dry and killed two more guys to win a game

I hate going into a match, especially a PUG match without a couple medium lasers. And I get really annoyed with teammates who are "men" who shoot their jager dry in five minutes and announce "I'm out of ammo."

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

so if your mech is running a XL ur more prone to dieing if they take out a ST so wat is a ST lol all these short words i have no clue as im new

ST: Side Torso. XLs take 12 slots, 6 in the CT and 3 in each ST. STDs just take 6 in the CT. You'll always die by losing: 1) head, 2) both legs, 3) CT. If you have an XL, you'll also die by losing either ST.

EDIT: Read this:

http://mwomercs.com/...s-guide-to-mwo/

Some of the particulars on weapon/chassis balance are dated, but the core concepts are sound and you'll have a much better idea of how the game actually works.

Edited by Terciel1976, 02 February 2014 - 09:04 AM.

[Ghastous]

cool cool thx for the tips now ill have to have a play around with it see wat that setup is like also still really need to get my 1st mech as all ive got is my hero lol but im going to get the 4X

Edited by Ghastous, 02 February 2014 - 09:07 AM.

[Ghastous]

right so ive built that setup only problem is i cant fit a standard engine in as i have to much weight but its a perfect copy of that build any idea why not? do i need special pilot skills lol

Edited by Ghastous, 02 February 2014 - 09:19 AM.

[TercieI]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

right so ive built that setup only problem is i cant fit a standard engine in as i have to much weight but its a perfect copy of that build any idea why not? do i need special pilot skills lol

That's the whole point of the XL (for eXtra Light, actually). It's lighter but larger and riskier.

You didn't read your homework.

[Ghastous]

i did do my homework as if u look at the post victor posted on his ilya build ull see hes using a std engine but when i did the exact build i couldn't place the engine in meaning that the tool got it wrong

[TercieI]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

i did do my homework as if u look at the post victor posted on his ilya build ull see hes using a std engine but when i did the exact build i couldn't place the engine in meaning that the tool got it wrong

Thought you meant the 4X.

Did you get Endo Steel? Are your armor values the same?

[Ghastous]

Terciel1976, on 02 February 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

Thought you meant the 4X.

Did you get Endo Steel? Are your armor values the same?

no not the 4x even though i have just bought 1 but ive not fitted it yet and not enough cash for a better engine hehe but yeh i trimmed 1 armor each of a leg and it fitted now to go play test it hehe

[Ghastous]

well so far the 4X sucks for me as its to slow cos not enough cash for engine and every game a loss so not happy at all with it

[TercieI]

Ghastous, on 02 February 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

well so far the 4X sucks for me as its to slow cos not enough cash for engine and every game a loss so not happy at all with it

It does take a fair amount of getting used to, and all CTFs get MUCH better with doubled basic efficiencies.

[Ghastous]

well i hope so cos atm im not winning any games in it at all also really do need to get my mates to try this game out cos rolling solo is boring at its best

Edited by Ghastous, 02 February 2014 - 04:16 PM.