However, to what benefit? None.
Simply because someone is... unwise enough to speak on a public stream to air dirty laundry - as annoying and dishonorable as it is; it... is merely consistent with the UTTER lack of OP SEC current DHB tagged members have while representing this once- respected unit in public broadcast.
When a recruit *I* recruited for DHB ( through the training unit; via maelstrom ) is directly telling you what it means when I am warning you NOT to discuss a particular current war, and what i was *really* saying...
I can only take that as the current iteration of DHB is SO deep in the clubhouse they will NOT heed warnings that not ALL of anon is on our side.
...current members maybe so insulated from the outisde world that they may not understand what that MEANS.
Just a RTFM means something, if your people are so unwise as to ignore an eveplayer warning you about anon...
I simply don't have words for my disgust...
Worse, if you treat your recruits like "new to me; must be a noob" - is it *surprising* any time your clubhouse unit leave sthe clubhouse, you lose members?
Before I get to the nice part- one last -
really- you think it would be *wise* to send one of your guys to 'deal' with me?
With your previous eperiences of what happens any time your unit plays outside it's little hidey hole?
I ask you to consider the two most likely results:
1) I end up with another bondsman. as per SOP ( RTFM! )- he would remain on his main account in your unit- and be given the 'smurf' training unit account to help the ReSeRVes training unit - the one Maelstrom was going to be given to run it- well, until he showed so many "red flags" that he was out of consideration and a new more qualified applicant was given the position.
I judge a leader by how his subordinates act when he isn't around. Endless red flags, but I digress- and this is close to what i did for a living- I don't consult for free except by accident out of habit. My findings were interesting to say the least, but even if I considered myself as working for DHB, there is no one I consider worthy of the results; since after all- they are too smart to listen to anyone "new". ( we'll get to that ).
2) your guy would end up talking to one of the units I recruit for- likely the vet-sonly one, and- you'd lose yet another player.
I would ask everyone to put *aside* their cog-dis defenses for a MOMENT- and consider, if ANY time your people play wiht other units, they leave- there... may be a problem in your clubhouse.
( I'll let you have this one for free- "clubhouse units" - just like prison guards , stanford prison experiments; and ( new to me research ) people who WANT to be an Unpaid Moderator.
We used to consider the worst part of working in the game industry- and we were paid.
What it reveals about a person who wants to be - is well-documented but I'll be silly- "eric cartman"- hall monitor.
remember what happened when Eric C met Wendy T?
humor; like most fiction; works when it touches on "truths" - memes; archetypes, etc- and the reason that bit of comedy worked- is it rang true.
Is that too esoteric a reference for current DHb?
before I move to the nice stuff - please ask the recruit I sent you the *signifigance* of me putting your unit's correct link in the edit ( first post): presence in another game means. it's not even a "gentleman villain" veiled threat- it's the cost of not being able to HEED warnings.
so... I wonder if any people that play mwo- also play EVE..and might just play that game.
Ask him about the story that is famous- books on it- when a machiavllian player in EVE made a poor life decision- he screwed over a vet while on deployment.
boom, bang- the most feared allaince in EVE crashed as every vet or vet-respecting player in the gamechanged sides.
Think it didn't affect mwo? It did- and Iexplained how- and no one was interested, because you new guys don't remember the GOONSWARM coming into mwo.
Ask your eve player how it VERY much affects me saying please pleasestfu about the war.
ASk him how it realtes to the fall of scientology, the arab spring, the arrest of an anti-video game politician ( who was helping the zetas transfer guns and drug money )...
The clubhouse ego does not like to accept they live in a larger world. But you DO.
And dhb does. And- if they have a hard time in other games because people can see the screenshots of what I doubt most of you have even seen ( your discord mods do alot the unit leader isn't aware of, from what I saw...).
I am not the only person who went over there who was annoyed to be treated as " well he's new here he must be a noob"...
it's a common habit of "clubhouses" in any game- and of course, as people are people - so in real life as well.
So- free consulting: you *must* train your customer support / bartenders to NOT act like hall monitors-
they will tend to ( to quote dark marauder: this moderator power has really gone to ( ign ) 's head.
Isn't that odd? Talk to someone in Internal Affairs about how they screen for that.
but at a "bar" for example, if the bartender starts acting like that, people will just go to a better bar- so many options.
Is that perhaps why you lose members at the first hint of meeting options?
Revealing.
Anyway- I hope you'll speak to- and lISTEN this time- to your very valuable recruit- about ops security and why people should NOT say things like " i wish he was ina jungle" or what not on A DHB stream.
Unit member or not ; he's said some pretty personal attacks.
Interesting- and revealing that he ***umed I haven't.
There is always the possibility my discord handle ( i change it to whichever chaarcer I'm playing with whichever unit or whichever game- most people who play more than one game, do this. Do you people seriously ONLY play mwo ?)
smh.
anyway- the discord handle you're thinking of... perhaps it is a play on words of my original IGN - which ... theoretically may have happened IN a jungle?
- Golden Rule: would the person making personal and public attacks- say it to me in person?
I know he'll read this, i BEG he ( Mcfish) says yes.
I'm pretty sure the answer is NO- so he shouldn't publicly talk trash he can't backup; thinking it's safe.
The internet is not safe, and it is not anonymous.
Perhaps I am a 14 yr old basement troll who will "swat" other streamers?
( I'm not- but if you're going to beef with people online, you NEED better op sec )
That said, if you won't listen to me, and won't listen to your valuable new recruit;
well, I left, feeling my work was not only wasted but- resented. Can't imagine why I started to say " I am not in your unit- i do NOT work for you- i do NOT care about your discord, please kick me if this a safe space, it will be a mark of HONOR.
--- why are people still talking to me after I say- i'm not in your unit, your un-earned rank and your discord mean less than nothing; don't talk to me- personality clashes with my boss's inferiors are - of no benefit.
endless blocked messages.
Why would anyone put up with this?
more to the point before one invests time, recruits, or money into a venture; you get a prospectus.
isent you another recruit- on of the most valuable assets in the game...and everyone there gave this person NO respect.
Glad I waste dthe effort getting them over there.
NOW- with MAN YOU GUYS AND YOUR CONSTANT RUDENESS GOT UNDER MY SKIN - is over; lets move to better things.
Edited by Mr_Wednesday, 27 June 2023 - 10:28 AM.