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[Adeptus Odren]

Leetskeet, on 01 December 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

Hero mechs



Enjoy dying miserably because there's no tutorial and the trial mechs are the absolute most trash builds you could possibly drop into a match with.

No. The trial atlas was great if used properly. And the trial awesome can be devastating.

[Lefty Lucy]

Adeptus Odren, on 01 December 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

No. The trial atlas was great if used properly. And the trial awesome can be devastating.

The AS7-RS was the only good trial mech ever. The AWS-9M is an absolute joke. It doesn't have the heat capacity to keep up with a single ERPPC, let alone 3. Combined with lackluster speed and an XL engine it's the biggest trial death trap ever, especially considering that it's likely to give the other side an Atlas of some kind.

[Sifright]

Lefty Lucy, on 01 December 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

The AS7-RS was the only good trial mech ever. The AWS-9M is an absolute joke. It doesn't have the heat capacity to keep up with a single ERPPC, let alone 3. Combined with lackluster speed and an XL engine it's the biggest trial death trap ever, especially considering that it's likely to give the other side an Atlas of some kind.

my favorite thing is watching newbies in the trial awesome walk into the caldera alpha strike all their ppcs and explode..

By favorite i mean i laughed my *** off the first time i saw it and then was sad that it happened again and again....

[Kaspirikay]

This game isn't pay to win.... Yet.

[Rex Budman]

Zeul, on 01 December 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Hey everyone. I'm a new player and I'm looking for feedback from you oldschool players regarding this game.

Firstly, I'd like to ask:

1. How long has this game been out?

2. How much P2W (pay to win) is it. How necessary is the buyable currency and how much of an advantage does it give over players who do not use it? I for one tend to spend cash on games but I'm interested as to what extent it takes place in this one. BSG Online for example ate salaries for me...

Secondly, as a new player I ask: what are the things you wish you knew about this game when u first started and would have helped you in any way?

Cheers and thanks for the feedback!

There is no need to drop money into the game.

It took me less than a half day of thrashing games with the Trail Mechs to get 5.5m Cbills. Basically jump in a match, play, get out, restart.

Since I do not agree that trail mechs are battle viable, I think you should thrash the trail mechs, play a half assed game and get out quickly (do not DC, people hate that), then jump in another match. It sounds a little low, but subjecting players to SSRM2 Cats with STD mech builds is very very harsh. It may even turn them off the entire game.

Do this method for a couple of hours and you will notice your C-Bills rack up. I managed 130k average per match with the trail mechs. Then, Finally, I was able to purchase my mechs, build them, and get out on the field.

[Pihoqahiak]

Zero Neutral, on 01 December 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

League of Legends also made sales during Beta. The game is much more different now than it was at the time... your point?
Welcome to 2012.

League of Legends was in Open Beta for less than a week. That is a huge difference between what PGI is doing with MW:O and what Riot did with League of Legends.

[Leetskeet]

Rex Budman, on 01 December 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

play a half assed game and get out quickly

Basically.

If you're going to do it legit, load in, run towards into the enemy team, shoot them up until you die, leave, rinse, repeat.

[Elizander]

Hunchbacks are pretty good and easy to build up. I see a TON of them running around when I play games and they are very reliable and easy to maintain so I think those who can get comfortable using the 4SP or 4P will be able to play well without paying anything and just use excess funds to build other mechs to experiment with.

[Franchi]

Lefty Lucy, on 01 December 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

The AS7-RS was the only good trial mech ever. The AWS-9M is an absolute joke. It doesn't have the heat capacity to keep up with a single ERPPC, let alone 3. Combined with lackluster speed and an XL engine it's the biggest trial death trap ever, especially considering that it's likely to give the other side an Atlas of some kind.

I called the last trial awesome a 80 ton walking coffin, it had just enough LRM ammo to **** someone off and just enough lasers to overheat.

This one? I don't know what to call it "The noobcake oven"? The hilarious part is its a cannon variant that is supposed to be able to rain hell on anyone in range until the cows come home, and it can't even function. Heat is fine!

Edited by Franchi, 01 December 2012 - 10:31 PM.

[Drach]

Zero Neutral, on 01 December 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Hero mechs have no advantage over any other custom built mechs.

You either have to buy some MC and use it to buy a mech of grind it out in the trial mechs until you have the C-bills to buy one.
In a trial mech you do not earn xp that is for upgrading pilot trees and for the most part is variant specific.

Having also come from BSG Onlinemay I recomend that you find a group of people and get on a VOIP like team speak 3.
Hang in there if you choose to grind out that first mech and cruise the forums lots of good points in here.

Edited by Drach, 01 December 2012 - 10:27 PM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Zeul, on 01 December 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Why? In what way? You level up slower, you gather currency slower? Why? Details please

Trial Mechs suck, as they have no upgrades or talents. In order to get these, you have to get out of the Trial, which requires a lot of money. You then have to farm even more for upgrades and talents in order to not be at a disadvantage vs people with it. The game isn't P2W... but it's basically... "Pay 2 Enjoy", like most F2P titles. Unless you've got hundreds of hours to spare with no money, I'd suggest riding a Premium.

[MWHawke]

Leetskeet, on 01 December 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

Hero mechs



Enjoy dying miserably because there's no tutorial and the trial mechs are the absolute most trash builds you could possibly drop into a match with.

If you don't understand the game and it's builds, don't bother commenting..

[hammerreborn]

Pihoqahiak, on 01 December 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

League of Legends was in Open Beta for less than a week. That is a huge difference between what PGI is doing with MW:O and what Riot did with League of Legends.

DoTA2 you can pay 40 or 50$ to get into their open beta and they have all kinds of purchases. Smite and Tribes: Ascend also have paid heroes/classes and are both in Beta.

EDIT: And look at the giant spawn of Kickstarter games. Are those "released" because all sales are final?

Edited by hammerreborn, 01 December 2012 - 11:57 PM.

[Raidyr]

How is having to pay for the most optimized builds not pay2win?

[MWHawke]

Raidyr, on 01 December 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

How is having to pay for the most optimized builds not pay2win?

You don't PAY real money to optimize your builds. You use CB which can be earned in-game. There is only 1 chassis for sale for real money and 1 more coming out soon.

You have 449 posts so I expect you are an experienced player. If you still don't understand the game, same quote to you: If you don't understand the game, don't comment.

[Sifright]

hammerreborn, on 01 December 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

DoTA2 you can pay 40 or 50$ to get into their open beta and they have all kinds of purchases. Smite and Tribes: Ascend also have paid heroes/classes and are both in Beta.

EDIT: And look at the giant spawn of Kickstarter games. Are those "released" because all sales are final?

did you seriously try and compare kickstarter.

A crowd funding source for investment in product. Games or otherwise which is meant to help fund a project, to selling stuff from a beta or in this case an alpha?

I lack the words with which to castigate you effectively...

Edited by Sifright, 02 December 2012 - 03:05 AM.

[Sifright]

MWHawke, on 01 December 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

If you don't understand the game and it's builds, don't bother commenting..

This coming from mr heat is fine, everything is nice and dandy... is incredible to say the least.

Not to mention the toxicixity of telling every one having problems to leave.

You understand if all the people having problems with the game leave and stop playing your precious product which you are white knighting for will be dead yes?

[Mike Theumer]

The point is the game isn't Pay 2 Win, but you can pay to get ahead of the pack. Which means you win sooner than those that don't.

[Mike Theumer]

MWHawke, on 02 December 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

You don't PAY real money to optimize your builds. You use CB which can be earned in-game. There is only 1 chassis for sale for real money and 1 more coming out soon.

You have 449 posts so I expect you are an experienced player. If you still don't understand the game, same quote to you: If you don't understand the game, don't comment.

You can buy any variant with real money, by buying MC or you can earn C-bill, guess which is faster? Buy the variants, get all the skills in the trees, improve your mech.

[Lykaon]

Zeul, on 01 December 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Hey everyone. I'm a new player and I'm looking for feedback from you oldschool players regarding this game.

Firstly, I'd like to ask:

1. How long has this game been out?

2. How much P2W (pay to win) is it. How necessary is the buyable currency and how much of an advantage does it give over players who do not use it? I for one tend to spend cash on games but I'm interested as to what extent it takes place in this one. BSG Online for example ate salaries for me...

Secondly, as a new player I ask: what are the things you wish you knew about this game when u first started and would have helped you in any way?

Cheers and thanks for the feedback!

1) as has been said it's been out only since open Beta.And even then technicaly an open Beta is not a completed game so Mechwarrior Online isn't out yet.

2) I will honestly say that purchasing some seed MC goes a long way to bootstrap a new player up the proverbial foodchain.Is it pay to win? no not as such it's more like pay to skip the tedious parts.

Secondly: I would say a little research goes a long way.Learn how specific weapons perform,learn how specific components work and what I think is very important is realize that mechwarrior online is a team based competetive game.Preperation is key to victory and I highly recommend looking into organized groups.

The education and "training" these organizations provide are not to be underestimated.Shop around ask questions from the recruiting organizations and find a good fit for you.