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[Lefty Lucy]

I challenge you to do 8 v 8 matches with trial mechs. Go ahead. I dare you.

[The Cheese]

As long as both sides have to do it, bring it on.

[QuantumButler]

8 v 8 trail awesomes.

Enjoy games were everyone is in shutdown mode 80% of the time.

Exciting!

[Lefty Lucy]

The Cheese, on 04 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

As long as both sides have to do it, bring it on.

Now, that would just be fun

[The Cheese]

QuantumButler, on 04 December 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

8 v 8 trail awesomes.

Enjoy games were everyone is in shutdown mode 80% of the time.

Exciting!

But that other 20% would be pure chaos. Alphas shall black out the sky.

[Lefty Lucy]

The Cheese, on 04 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

But that other 20% would be pure chaos. Alphas shall black out the sky.

Because of over-used HDR

[Zenfall]

...and of course you need a well coordinated team.

[Vermaxx]

Trial mechs are not piles of dog poo.

They are non optimized, heat heavy mechs in a game where you can shoot more often than the game they were designed for; there are no to-hit penalties; and the ranges are far shorter.

That being said, they do what they are supposed to do. In the hands of a good player, they're often as effective as (some) optimized builds.

THAT being said, they are terrible for new people who have zero understanding of heat, rates of fire, the benefits of chain over group and always-alpha, and aren't working together cohesively.

In short, they are good mechs...for the top 1% who could have killed you with an agri-mech. For most players they are terrible choices to learn in, and the variants available to rotate through are not chosen for their heat efficiency.

[The Cheese]

I'm actually really looking forward to the "Trial By Fire" tournament that's been advertised in General.

I'm a big fan of "all things being equal" in competitive games.

[gregsolidus]

I suppose the school of hard knocks will always be in session as long as MWO is concerned.

[Illya Ghost Bear]

I only drive trial mechs. I don't own one yet. And I do OK with it. Yes, against a full premade with high tech mechs, I lose. And when Clans come so will they. But they are not impossible, or even horrible (OK< heat on Awesome might be pretty horrible). My 1X Cataphract is fine. I still die, and lose some matches, but since I have been playing only 3 days I expect this. BUt my W/L is close to 50% and my K/Dr is about .92.

Not impressive by premade standards, and of course we have many rambo uber gamers who can wipe out whole premades on their own (or so they say), but I think Trials are fine for what they are. I learned weapon grouping, heat management and chain fire very soon!

I am not part of group, I PUG only for now (i have reasons, but will hopefully use TS soon!). But my best game I get 3 kills. With piece of poo worthless Trial Cataphract. I find Hunchback is good too. I get 1-2 kills not uncommon. (On three kill match some fancy super custom Awesome overheat near me, so I walk over and alpha his face. So maybe it really should be 2.5 kills, since stupid pilot made it easy?)

I go in 8v8 right now with ANY mech (even a Clan mech) and I will die too fast. Because you teams are all experienced. I am not. But I would not run away and disco just because I was in a trial mech.

Edited by Illyana Arkhipova, 04 December 2012 - 09:48 PM.

[Lefty Lucy]

Zenfall, on 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

...and of course you need a well coordinated team.

4 man on coms versus PUGs, several of whom were in trial mechs too? Color me not impressed. From here on out, any game play videos that aren't 8 v 8 are to be mocked.

The Cheese, on 04 December 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

I'm actually really looking forward to the "Trial By Fire" tournament that's been advertised in General.

I'm a big fan of "all things being equal" in competitive games.

As the originator of the trial mech tournament idea, I am looking forward to it as well

As long as *everyone* is in crap mechs, it should be fun.

[Kdogg788]

Trial mechs are even worse in light of ECM.

-k

[Franchi]

Zenfall, on 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

...and of course you need a well coordinated team.

dropping in 4 LRM mechs and then 4 snipers on voice coms with experienced pilots against obvious noobs.

What exactly did they prove?

[Walk]

Franchi, on 04 December 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

dropping in 4 LRM mechs and then 4 snipers on voice coms with experienced pilots against obvious noobs.

What exactly did they prove?

exactly what they set out to do, show that trials can be piloted effectively, and that the people complaining about them are bad pilots who don't understand game mechanics. And that's exactly what it showed.

[MonkeyWarrior]

Very interesting, but now there is no way for us to find a specified opponent team.

Hope there will be a mode a team can challenge another team, even there is no reward.

[Franchi]

Walk, on 04 December 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

exactly what they set out to do, show that trials can be piloted effectively, and that the people complaining about them are bad pilots who don't understand game mechanics. And that's exactly what it showed.

Hate to break it to you but only one of them actually piloted a trial awesome.

[Walk]

Franchi, on 04 December 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

Hate to break it to you but only one of them actually piloted a trial awesome.

Really? In the video I watched, I saw 8 trial hunchbacks. Maybe I saw the wrong video.

[Lefty Lucy]

Walk, on 04 December 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

exactly what they set out to do, show that trials can be piloted effectively, and that the people complaining about them are bad pilots who don't understand game mechanics. And that's exactly what it showed.

Unless it's 8 v 8 it doesn't prove anything. You can drive a stick of rancid butter, and if you're playing against PUGs on voice coms you're going to dominate.

[Franchi]

Walk, on 04 December 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Really? In the video I watched, I saw 8 trial hunchbacks. Maybe I saw the wrong video.

You saw 8 trial hunchies? Really so that Founders cat bounding around in the first video was a figment of my imagination? they only took 4 trial hunchies, and even I will admit the trial hunchback is a decent mech aside from the K2 its the best trial mech so far.

Watch the second video, only one of them is piloting a trial awesome if you can't figure out how I know that I can't help you.

The fact that only one of them took the REAL noobcake oven and was bodygaurded by three customs tells me all I need to know.

This is a perfect example of whats wrong with this player base, rabid fanbois (and girls) that will lie and distort to defend a broken system.

Edited by Franchi, 04 December 2012 - 11:39 PM.