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[Tarman]

Fros7bite, on 04 March 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Oh no PGI. I hope this isn't going to become a trend!

You really need a new thread-polluting post, this one's getting old.

[Michael Costanza]

Only a few (or maybe just the AS7-D-DC) are allowed to use a Command Console I thought.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

This is just going to encourage more SRM and PPC boating builds.
Exactly what we DIDN'T want.

[Vahnn]

NOTE: I have added this post to my previous post with an EDIT notation. Don't bother to read.

I change my mind. Of course, we will have to wait and see what the actual costs are, but if it not 100% viable to spend CB on coolants flush to the point where I must even CONSIDER using MC to be able to win fights in games (read: "fights in games which were previously winnable with current, pre-flush heat mechaincs), then I will uninstall the game and PGI will never see another penny from me.

And PGI, you should really ******* reconsider, because even if a handful of players are like me, they're idiots and the idea of dropping $100.00 at a time for MC is stupid and will instead purchase MC on an As-Needed Basis, which we ALL know is a huge waste of money for the player... And you will lose a lot of revenue.

Don't be ******* idiots. I will literally uninstall this game and stop trying to get friends to play it (even though none of them want to play it anyway, due to the sh*t trial mech builds and the need to purchase 3x of the same mech chassis in order to get to the next tier of Mech Tree skills.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

JimSuperBleeder, on 04 March 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

You can only use it once; max twice, in a game... It's not that big of a deal...

So since the match maker won't be taking these into account, like ECM. What if one team has the MC version of Air Strike and Coolant on all their mechs, and the other side doesn't?

Then what? Might as well give them an extra mech.

[Warrax the Chaos Warrior]

stjobe, on 04 March 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Seems Paul updated the Command Chair post, and clarified things a bit. If I understand correctly it works like this:
* If you buy just the small CB one, you get one 15% flush.
* If you buy just the medium CB one, you get one 20% flush.
* If you buy BOTH the CB ones, you get TWO 35% flushes.
* If you buy the MC one, you get ONE 35% flush.

He did not say they were both 35%. It still says one is 15 and one is 20.

Which still could be an advantage vs. just having a single 35 in some situations.

Edited by Warrax the Chaos Warrior, 04 March 2013 - 04:19 PM.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Wow....I'm completely taken aback. What a difference a couple of hours makes.

Truly, I'm saddened to see the Devs go this route.

MC coolant costs me one slot, Cbill costs 2? I mean....we're not even talking the cash points yet but this isn't a fair breakdown PGI.

You've crossed into P2W territory here imo. Sad but true. Hope it doesn't completely derail the game.

[Redmond Spiderhammer]

the thing is.... they dont really need to make an MC only version at all. They just price the Cbill alternatives High enough that it forces the serious players to cough up MC in order to keep using them as it gets too expensive to use on c bils alone

[Suko]

If Counter Strike allowed paying players to carry additional flashbangs & grenades compared to the standard load out, people would go ballistic. It would imbalance the game in favor of those who have cash. Allowing players to pay to own the SAME THING their non-paying counterparts can equip is one thing. Letting them have MORE than a non-paying player can take is not balanced. In a non-ideal scenario a completely pay team would have up to 16x more module components than their non-pay opponents.

Edited by ShadowVFX, 04 March 2013 - 04:21 PM.

[malibu43]

It's not coolant I'm worried about - I'm concerned that things like airstrikes and artillery strikes will work in the same way. It will be like R&R, where only those with Premium time or MC are able afford to use the modules match after match.

[Gandalfrockman]

Take your Chill pill and insert it somewhere painful and unpleasant.
THIS IS WORTH GETTING PISSED OFF OVER!

F2P Version 35% cooling uses Two Slots
P2W Version 35% Cooling uses One slot

Considering the Scarcity of module Slots; The 2 uses Vs One thing is complete and utter tripe as a balance mechanic..

[Liberty]

I think it would be best for this game if we stayed away from buying anything with either C-Bill or MC that gives in game advantages. Prefer to keep advantages based off skill of the player and how much time he has spent piloting that particular mech. If you really want pay for advantages then I suggest using Community Warfare and let Factions and Guilds buy such advantages for their teams with points they have earned through conquests of planets.

[KharnZor]

Fros7bite, on 04 March 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Oh no PGI. I hope this isn't going to become a trend!

Thank you for putting forward absolutely nothing

[LordBraxton]

I was upset BEFORE I knew the cbill ones take up 2 slots.

Even if the cbill one was JUST AS GOOD premium still gives a huge advantage and its still pay to win.

NO CONSUMABLES PLEASE for the same reason REARM is a terrible balance mechanic this will unbalance the game
this is straight up world of tards

I suppose this teaches me never to spend money on a beta ever EVER again, guess we got suckered.

Edited by LordBraxton, 04 March 2013 - 04:19 PM.

[Carrilla]

Granted that it does not mention this at all, but if you flush the coolant out of your mech, wouldn't you overheat faster the rest of the match? Sorry, little things like logic get in the way of my thinking sometimes.

Edited by Carrilla, 04 March 2013 - 04:20 PM.

[Rayah]

Tennex, on 04 March 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

look kid. this game is being made by PGI. A game company involved with duke nukem.

They decided they couldn't be successful as a F2P
and went P2W.
They don't have the ambition. They don't have the ability. And have settled back into making a C rated game like they used to.

the best thing to do now is to chalk it up as, that a MW game can still hold interest. and hope that in the future a better company will have influence over the IP.

This post is the reason why you should disregard everything you read on forums. If this post wasn't serious, I'd be laughing my *** off right now.

Seriously, the people who don't like the game and want a game created for them go to the forums. The people who are actually worth listening to are either playing the game or not bothering with the forums.

Edited by Rayzor, 04 March 2013 - 04:24 PM.

[Broad5ide]

RiceyFighter, on 04 March 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

It is P2W because C-BIll version takes up 2 module slots while MC version takes up 1 module slot.

Example:

F2P: Coolant (1), Coolant (2), Airstrike (1), AirStrike (2)

P2W: Coolant (3), Airstrike (3), Module 1, Module 2

the c-bill version gets 2 uses where as the mc version gets 1. equipping both cbill versions is equivalent to equipping 2 mc versions. just sayin.

F2p: Coolant (1), Coolant(2), Airstrike (1), Airstrike(2) = Coolant(3) x2 Airstrike (3) x2 math bro

Edited by Broad5ide, 04 March 2013 - 04:22 PM.

[Damocles]

[Shumabot]

Cache, on 04 March 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Nah... I'm right on time by the looks of it. FYI, I'm not in a clan. Do you get paid for being negative?

Only with self satisfaction. Something money can't buy.

[StalaggtIKE]

Seanamal, on 04 March 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

But they got to make money so the game can continue.

I'd prefer if they depended on good balanced gameplay for that.