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[Novakaine]

By Bye maybe all the CODer's will migrate somewhere else.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Because it really just seems like a massive gimmick that is going to create an unbalanced, gamebreaking **** show.

Imagine getting nailed by a 6PPC Stalker. Aaaand then getting hit by him again because he bought a Large Cooling with REAL MONEY and flushed all of his heat...

1 Round consumables is just not a good thing.
IMO, no consumable item in this game could be a good thing.

Edited by AntiCitizenJuan, 04 March 2013 - 04:08 PM.

[Seanamal]

Well this post certainly caused the community to go ape. Of course that's because most people glossed over it and saw that as is, MC version will be better than c-bill version.

If you read it closely 2 sets of keywords jump out at you:


Examples of planned consumables:


Note: The values above are subject to tuning pending further gameplay testing.

What this means is that:

1: Coolant Flush may very well NOT be included in the game.

2: MC only Version may NOT necessarily be better than c-bill versions.

3: You should not freak out YET.

[Sears]

These consumables probably won't appear in PUG games, people are there to earn monies, whether in a group or not. Competitive 8 mans however, people who have enough money and want the win you'll see them there.

I agree though the airstrike and artillery should require the command console to use.

[OneEyed Jack]

I wonder if all the Chicken Littles realize that, unless you're running a crazy heat-spike build (PPC boat) the Cb versions will likely be more useful for anyone that knows how to manage heat....

[Oy of MidWorld]

Hmm, although this makes me sad, i suppose it's kind of funny to make money out of people who can't manage their heat. I just hope it's gonna be expensive.

[JimSuperBleeder]

DUST 514

They have the same consumable system but even worse because you lose everything.

I want to see how this plays out. Pretty excited myself.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

para, on 04 March 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Great, another 100% P2W game. I wish I could return my founders package.

I tried but being in an out of internet zone for two months attending a funeral isnt a good enough excuse. But at least we're seeing why they said no more refunds after OB

[shadin]

Can I get Gold Ammo for my Guass rifle now?

[Cache]

IceSerpent, on 04 March 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

I can guarantee you that 35% coolant flush will be required equipment. The new "must-have-or-get-out" modules will be Coolant flush (MC version) + Airstrike + Arty strike.

But what about the airstrike and arty strike accuracy modules?

DirePhoenix, on 04 March 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I am not concerned about Air Strikes/Artillery as much as I am the Coolant Flush modules.

We still have no details on exactly how these will be implemented, but at least the TT Coolant Pods were balanced by the fact that they took up mass, crit space, and could explode. Modules take up no mass, and the only space they take up is a module slot. I am pretty sure that no matter what manner they're implemented, players will be dedicating at least one module slot on every 'mech to a coolant flush module.

We do have details now: http://mwomercs.com/...44#entry1996644

They're not near as bad as the Chicken Littles are trying to say they are.

[Budor]

One Medic Army, on 04 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Did you read?
It's like being able to buy a Target Range lvl2 module for MC.
The exact same thing with the exact same effect is available for CBills.

It's not P2W unless the cost in CBills are so prohibitive that MC or premium are the only reasonable ways to get it.

The cbill version requires 2 module slots for the same function.

A mech with 2 module slots caps faster (targets faster, holds lock longer, artillery strikes(?) aso.) with the MC coolant.

This is p2w by the definition that you cannot aquire the same with cbills this is even more articulated through the fact how scarce module slots on mechs are.

Edited by Budor, 04 March 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[Void2258]

Doesn't matter this whole thing is pay-2-win. If it isn't removed I am leaving. I have no interest in playing a game where whether I win depends on how much money I put into it. Hero mechs are OK because they are not unbalanced OP; paying for items is not. GG PGI.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

WolvesX, on 04 March 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...44#entry1996644

http://mwomercs.com/...welcome-to-p2w/

Gold ammo in MWO.

This is serious crap.

wow.

I'm shocked.

theres the ammo?

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Not really. It is just going to lead to more things that the matchmaker can't take into account. We already have that issue with ECM, now you are adding 3 new things on top of that?

For instance, two teams, similar ELO...but one team has 3 ECM, 4 mechs with coolant module, and a couple mechs with airstrike.

Other team has 1 ECM 1 coolant and 1 airstrike.

You might as well give team 1 an extra mech.

[Kurshuk]

This is unacceptable.

Kurshuk

[FromHell2k]

Screw it Paul, you've blown it!!!!

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__1997964

Quote

Eeesh. Saw some numbers people were throwing around and this needs clarification now....


CB Coolant Flush Tier 1 = 15% cooling of TOTAL heat on your Mech.
CB Coolant Flush Tier 2 = 20% cooling of TOTAL heat on your Mech.
TOTAL cooling of your Mech is 35%.

MC Coolant Flush = 35% cooling of TOTAL heat on your Mech.

Look at it this way, you get the SAME TOTAL heat dissipation on BOTH purchase methods. The C-bill one gives you the opportunity to dump twice in 1 match at the cost of a module slot.

WHAT DAFUQ ABOUT THE OTHER CONSUMEABLES?! MC > 3, CB > 1 1/2 or what?!

Edited by FromHell2k, 04 March 2013 - 04:10 PM.

[StalaggtIKE]

I was hoping airstrike and artillery would be specific to CC.

[AceTimberwolf]

Sears, on 04 March 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

These consumables probably won't appear in PUG games, people are there to earn monies, whether in a group or not. Competitive 8 mans however, people who have enough money and want the win you'll see them there.

I agree though the airstrike and artillery should require the command console to use.

Yea i was thinking the same but i can see a 4 man Splat cat team using air and artillery on others without remorse. It could end up bad.

Fros7bite, on 04 March 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

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haha I don't get it

[Ilwrath]

This just had to be polled:

Will coolant flush enhanced Jenner be able to core Atlas in 3 seconds?

[Tennex]

look kid. this game is being made by PGI. A game company involved with duke nukem.

They decided they couldn't be successful as a F2P
and went P2W.
They don't have the ambition. They don't have the ability. And have settled back into making a C rated game like they used to.

the best thing to do now is to chalk it up as, that a MW game can still hold interest. and hope that in the future a better company will have influence over the IP.

Edited by Tennex, 04 March 2013 - 04:14 PM.