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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:47 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:56 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:02 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:22 PM
Edited by Budor, 05 December 2012 - 08:23 PM.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:31 PM
Maybe 12 at point blank, 10 at 300, and down from there on every 150 meters.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:32 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:34 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:54 PM
Selectable rounds and the air-burst canister would be ideal of course, but I figured I'd throw out an idea that we could maybe get sooner rather than later.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:25 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure flak, flechettes, and things like that were anti-aircraft and anti-infantry rounds (I recall an AC/20 firing a flechette round into a cluster of infantry being described as 'instant gumbo, family-size').
Still, the LBX10 is missing its utility...although, without specialty AC rounds, it would effectively make the AC/10 obsolete, since it's one ton lighter and could do exactly the same thing (and more).
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:37 PM
The fact that the LBX is not considered to be superior in nearly all fashions to the AC10 is a sign that things are not right currently in autocannon land.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:41 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:00 PM
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PGI shouldn't even have to tinker with the spread if they fragmented a specific distance from the target rather then out of the barrel. Which I think it's been done this way in other MW games as well but a shotgun versus a walking tank is just silly because that means you need to get close to it. I guess they don't have to adhere to Battletech's version of it, but it made more sense to work more like flak.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:03 PM
Karyudo ds, on 05 December 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:
PGI shouldn't even have to tinker with the spread if they fragmented a specific distance from the target rather then out of the barrel. Which I think it's been done this way in other MW games as well but a shotgun versus a walking tank is just silly because that means you need to get close to it. I guess they don't have to adhere to Battletech's version of it, but it made more sense to work more like flak.
In canon, LBX are flaks that open up something like 80m from the muzzle and EXPLODES... so we talking explosive submunitions here... you are right, PGI completely misunderstood how LBX works..
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:21 PM
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:29 PM
mwhighlander, on 05 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:
Scryed, on 05 December 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:
Karyudo ds, on 05 December 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:
PGI shouldn't even have to tinker with the spread if they fragmented a specific distance from the target rather then out of the barrel. Which I think it's been done this way in other MW games as well but a shotgun versus a walking tank is just silly because that means you need to get close to it. I guess they don't have to adhere to Battletech's version of it, but it made more sense to work more like flak.
LB-X ACs are also specifically described as smoothbore weapons (TechManual, pg. 207; "These materials, coupled with a smooth-bore, multi-munition feed mechanism, make the LB more expensive than standard autocannons."), a descriptor that is used in such a way as to indicate contrast with other AC types... and one which is significant specifically because rifled barrels are generally unsuitable for firing shotshells, an issue that would not exist with shrapnel shells.
Additionally, the CBT Master Rules (Revised Edition, #10984) specifically states (on page 132), "The LB-X autocannon can fire cluster munitions, which act like an anti-BattleMech shotgun in combat. When fired, the ammunition fragments into several smaller sub-munitions."
The description indicates that the cluster munitions fragment "when fired", as opposed to "when the shell is within X meters of the target", further supporting the "cluster rounds as shotshells" LB-X model.
So: TT/canon LB-X ammo was always intended to be a shotshell, rather than a shrapnel shell.
Sybreed, on 05 December 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:
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A: We plan to have this functionality eventually, but currently it is not available. Who doesn't want lots of different Ammo types, right? [GARTH]
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A: I believe this is the third time I'll have answered this, but yes, there will be alternate ammunition sources at some point, though they'll be later in development. [Garth]
Edited by Strum Wealh, 05 December 2012 - 10:31 PM.
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