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[KinLuu]

To snipe with AC2s, you need to lead the targets movement and andjust your aim for the bulletdrop depending on the distance.

A aimbot would need to be able to do both. It would need to be nearly as sophisticated as a modern day tank FCS.
I hardly believe someone would sit down for weeks and programm such a bot for such a niche game as MWO.

The first aimbots will snipe with ERRLL.

[Plavis]

Caelroigh Blunt, on 06 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Y'all can crow as much as you want about how good you are, but y'all ain't THAT good. I am SICK of the god*#&n aimbots. I was ABOUT to spend one hundred dollars on this foolish game but I will NOT be cheated. FIX it or say goodbye to my money.

I dont think thers any aimbot involved, you just got outplayed by some 1 with a good aim, if you actaly understud how sniper aiming works in this game its not where close to and other fps so even having aimbot will not beniffit any snipers in MWO,
In other Fps aimbot compansates for peoples aim, that dosent help for MWO snipers as in here to be a sniper you never aim directlt to a target but predict your target at least 3 seconds, having an aimbot will just screw snipers wheter in long range or short range, the only wepon system that can benifit with aimbot would be laser weapons but the best they could do is at max 2x ER Large laser thats 20 dps, and sniper with half a brain would go for a dual guass that dose 30 dps and dosent build up heat.

[Eric the Inappropriate]

I'm pretty sure I've seen one.

He cored all 8 players on my team, but the clincher is that he did some while being swarmed and hammered with ac fire. I could see his torso being thrown back and forth, yet he manages to hold the lasers on the CT of a running hunchie. The AC shake should make it near impossible to track a moving target.

[Elkarlo]

As i said KinLUU exactly that happened for me the Aimbot aimed to "low"
a Sniper would adjust it when he won't hit.

Secound you can adjust a Aimbot in the Configs in how the trailing works and there is the Universal Aimbot
( i just got know by searching) which seems to be compatible with lot of games and MWO too.

But i don't go deeper in this sides because they are russian and they tend to be very Virusinfected,
especially when Russian Hackers gives "Hacks" for "Free"

I think the Main reason we didn't have had Aimbots for a long time was the LRM...

Because why risking a Acc Bann, when you can use Lock on Weapons ?
I noticed about 5 Times this strange sniper behaviour... and i was a sitting target but dug in.

Edited by Elkarlo, 07 December 2012 - 01:00 AM.

[Elizander]

Eh, I already fight wall hackers every day in the local FPS game that I play and I used to have fun trying to beat aimbotters with headshots (really hard tho they just have to tap the fire button but noobs do full auto and miss). Nothing new in an online shooting game.

[GalaxyBluestar]

interesting i've done a shootout with a hunchie who's med lasers reached over 500m almost coreing my awesome armour {that's 80 points if you want to know} but i alphaed where i thought the head was and it came off. i have to admit i'm lucky but i also have to admit weapons are still very much beta, i've ssen plenty of hud readouts lie about the range after seeing weapons make hits way beyond the limit but that's not the issue here... um no i don't believe there are that many aimbots around, everyone's been fairly good with lasers and missles and the only good cannon shooters are the ones who didn't have to lead or compensate cause their trying to shoot too close a range for what the weapons fixed at. most people miss with those scenarios.

not saying there isn't any bots hell they were advertised by some aimsite thingy weeks ago but they don't appear to be rampant, at least not in pug matches anyways.so i'm a bit silly posting in ignorance but i really haven't found aimbots to be common enough to be noticeable. it just must be bad luck your were out gunned... move on.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 07 December 2012 - 02:08 AM.

[Hauser]

KinLuu, on 07 December 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:

To snipe with AC2s, you need to lead the targets movement and andjust your aim for the bulletdrop depending on the distance.

A aimbot would need to be able to do both. It would need to be nearly as sophisticated as a modern day tank FCS.
I hardly believe someone would sit down for weeks and programm such a bot for such a niche game as MWO.

The first aimbots will snipe with ERRLL.

Predicting where you need to aim is not very difficult and it can be done with bachelor level math. A quick google turned this up Calculating intercept vector for a moving target. To compensate for lag you take your targets velocity and multiply it by your ping and add that to his position before computing the intercept vector. To compensate for bullet drop you take the length of the intercept vector, apply the drop rate to it in reverse and you know how high you have to aim.

Once you have this worked out for a single game, you can use it any other shooter with minimal effort because shooter mechanics are fairly identical.

[Wolf Ender]

i just think its HILARIOUS how many people on this forum are so eager to whip out their e-peen that they completely ignore any possibility that there could be credible evidence of people exploiting hacks or other 3rd party code to cheat.

"I've played a million games and if i haven't seen one...therefore by LOGIC hacks do not exist!"
"It's really not that hard to get headshots, I do it ALL THE TIME"
"this game is soooooo eeeeaaaassssyyyyy you just suck noob"
"my KDR is SOOOOOO high, you must think I am a hacker, nope I'm just THAT GOOD"

seriously guys? get over yourselves.

OP may indeed be a total noob who needs to L2P but that doesn't rule out that he might have encountered a potential exploit.

I have been hit a few times where I had to say "hm...that was a conspicuously lucky shot" but I never seen anything that I could ONLY explain with "that had to be hacks". but I've only played about 800 games and that is not proof-positive that there are no exploits.

every credible case of possible exploits SHOULD be investigated. if hacks exist, they harm the whole community, noobs and veterans alike.

[justin xiang]

lol.

[PurpleNinja]

Caelroigh Blunt, on 06 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Y'all can crow as much as you want about how good you are, but y'all ain't THAT good. I am SICK of the god*#&n aimbots. I was ABOUT to spend one hundred dollars on this foolish game but I will NOT be cheated. FIX it or say goodbye to my money.

Don't call then cheaters, due to extreme lag, if you keep shooting randomly you will eventually hit someone.
It's even better if you shoot at specific camp points.

[N0MAD]

Youre seriously naive to think there is no aimbot and our old friend Packet editors and other neat tricks. Still dont get upset all games have their idiots.
Some of those so called idiots follow you from game to game. Ive seen guys from MW3-4 with the bad reps stroking their epeen here already. Old dogs and habits what?.

[Vexgrave Lars]

Oh Godmoney!! You are vapidly precious!

Do aim bots exists, well sure.. IS there one for MWO? No evidence yet exist that a WORKING, FUNCTIONAL piece of CODE exist, No Ports (which your emailed example is trying to be based on a counterstrike bot), no new code.

http://www.artificia...m/mwo_hacks.php is bull-puckey!

Its wishful fracking thinking.. I could use MSpaint and make bounding boxes on screenshots! and the rest of that is VB boxes, poorly done I might add.

Do you understand how hard it would be to adjust, with VB code, the angle and trajectory of a shell? Written for Cry3. Best guess there's some missing comparability there.

Just don't man, 20 years in IT, and as long in games, including CS with Bots tell me you DON'T!

Yeah, either a liar, a dupe, or the scammer trying to sell that crap?

Dude.. somebody drawing boxes around screenshots is not even proof of concept! Its wishful thinking! In development, proof of concept is SEEING IT WORK! Full Screen, as described on the advertisement

Get your boy @ HELIOS or A Developer (who, if it worked, would already own a copy so they can block it) to post a video OF IT WORKING, as identified in the screenshots and I'll take it back.. BUT a real video of it working.. with a full screen cap and no BS post editing. I want it running, with Task Manager up beside Procmon.

Otherwise your Full of bovine droppings!

Hell buy it yourself and IF it works as proposed I'll give you the 20 bucks for a 1 month license, with an apology, in the forums, in caps the biggest font they have!

You get scammed, you admit it HERE in the forums for everyone.

Sup to you! my money's waiting for you to walk the walk. Otherwise, you are a fear-mongering LIAR, who pushed a best guess that something "must be going on" because you and the other "it must be hackers" can't play the game.

Walk the walk, put up proof, or well...just walk on.

IF you wanted to fear-monger good and proper, you do something like, "and this is based on a Crysis 2 Aimbot." With some pretty colors of that too. Which at the very least would appear, to the casual observer, as feasible.

*All the name calling in the universe won't change what I asked you for.. don't bother. The first email you sent was plenty to demonstrate your excellent vocabulary skills.

Edited by Vexgrave Lars, 07 December 2012 - 07:30 AM.

[Bguk]

Caelroigh Blunt, on 06 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Y'all can crow as much as you want about how good you are, but y'all ain't THAT good. I am SICK of the god*#&n aimbots. I was ABOUT to spend one hundred dollars on this foolish game but I will NOT be cheated. FIX it or say goodbye to my money.

Just going to suggest not playing any online games as all of them have hackers.

[Joseph Mallan]

FrostCollar, on 06 December 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I've yet to seen any evidence of aimbots in this game. I've seen ample evidence that many players are quite good at this game. Mechs are very big targets and very slow moviing compared to sniping targets (read:other players) in other games, yet they have highly skilled snipers as well.

Unless you're talking about LRMs and SSRMs. In which case, there's nothing we can do for you.

Actually our team busted someone using Aimbot. So it's out there, we just haven't seen it often.

[Jack Corvus]

If people are indeed using aimbots, they don't seem to be doing them much good at all. In 629 matches so far, I've only ever seen one person with really incredible aim, and I'm not going to call them an aimbot since they also had great maneuvering and tactical sense to go along with that aim.

[Woky]

I think this issues is likely exceptionally rare, more than a few people I know have been called out for using one even tho they do not. With the exceptional number of false reports i think its quite likely a hard issue for anyone to keep track of. I don't doubt that maybe after a few hundred games you may have run across 1 person doing something underhanded I think you would be surprised at the skill level displayed by some people I've seen in this game, or people like me who have exceptional luck in some matches (head capped a moving commando at 500m once with a snap shot..... that was aimed at someone else!)

[Vexgrave Lars]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 December 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

Actually our team busted someone using Aimbot. So it's out there, we just haven't seen it often.

HOW did you ID that he was using an aimbot? Who, did you report him? whats the evidence?

[Vapor Trail]

I've been accused (once) of having hacks...

Sure, I've run a Splatapult since closed Beta. The faster shot on the AC20 might throw me occasionally... but I have the occasional game where I put six shells in three different cockpits...

If I can do that, I'm sure some people somewhere are going to be sniping on the run.

I don't doubt that there's at least one hack out there... but it currently hasn't altered the performance of "Jim-Bob-sucks-so-much" enough to make me fear him.

(Apologies to anyone actually named Jim-Bob that doesn't use hacks).

[Shae Starfyre]

My Lyr Muuuuuuu's 3 PPC and one Gauss is sweet headshotter!

[Krivvan]

The people headshotting you across the map and getting one hit kills are not the aimbotters. The aimbots for this game aren't actually good enough for that. All they do is help you actually hit the mech in the first place.