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The "mechwarrior" Factor


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Poll: Would you still be here... (392 member(s) have cast votes)

...if this game wasn't Mechwarrior branded?

  1. Definitely yes (67 votes [17.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.09%

  2. Probably yes (85 votes [21.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.68%

  3. Maybe/Abstain (61 votes [15.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.56%

  4. Probably no (118 votes [30.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.10%

  5. Definitely no (61 votes [15.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.56%

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#1 The Cheese

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

It's my belief that a lot of people are only sticking things out here because it's 'Mechwarrior'. I feel that it would be useful to gauge the feelings towards the game as a 'giant robot shoot-em-up' game rather than as a part of the Mechwarrior franchise.

In the end, the mechwarrior fans alone may not be enough to keep the game alive, so the game must be good enough to keep the other 'giant robot' fans interested. After all, there are (or will undoubtably be) quite a few 'giant robot' games out there to compete with this one. I'm not one to support pandering to complainers or casuals (I use the term not in a derogatory way, but an understanding way), but I do recognise that if this is to succeed, the game must be accessible to as wide of a player base as possible.

Think about the game itself. The game in it's current state (As we can't accurately predict how things will be in the future), with all of it's current good points and bad points. This exact same game, with the same weapons, mechs, levels, bugs, community and developer quirks, but with no mention of Battletech of Mechwarrior. Better yet, pretend you've never heard of Mechwarrior. Of course, names, designs and such would have to be slightly different for intellectual property reasons. If the founders hadn't paid for a package, and no money had been spent by non-founders. Would you still be playing that game?

Of course, I understand that this game IS a Mechwarrior title, and that pretending otherwise changes nothing.

Edited by The Cheese, 11 December 2012 - 10:04 PM.


#2 Adrienne Vorton

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:16 PM

maybe... maybe i WOULD have took a look at it at all, if it would have been close enough to MechWarrior to catch my interest... BattleTech and MechWarrior are the reason why i am here...

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....you probably wouldn´t be able to post a poll right now^^

#3 Roland

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:19 PM

Mechwarrior Gundams are the best Gundams.

#4 MadcatX

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

If this wasn't Mechwarrior, I wouldn't be here. I figure I would've played the game for about a week if I stumbled across it, but by that time the novelty would have worn off and all the bugs and the realization that I need to grind to get the mech I want let alone customize it the way I want would have turned me away.

#5 Ricama

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:35 PM

The level of customization allowed in this game is very rare to find. I'm not here for the brand per say, I'm here because the brand means customization.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:48 PM

Probably not...
Reason why is because we wouldn't be seeing these kinds of mechs. It'd just be a big kinda robot game with guns and probably would feel like a rip off from Mechwarrior, so I'd probably boycott it out of spite.

Also, I find myself playing Mechwarrior, rather than Hawken... ;) So that is good.
But if Mechwarrior wasn't in development I MIGHT be playing Hawken to wet my lips a little. But since it's so different than mechwarrior it wouldn't be long before I quit.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 11 December 2012 - 10:48 PM.


#7 Manicus

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:58 PM

I would have been long gone if not for the Mechwarrior title and the hope I could someday have my Mad Dog again. Mostly because of bad network issues and bugs.

#8 Tie Ma

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:01 PM

Lol as in if this was just some game by PGI? Probably not

#9 anonymous175

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

Wut?

This game is non-existent without the Mechwarrior brand. They're either crazy or think they can pull it off by taking on MW rather than making a new IP or taking on a low hanging fruit one (Pony Online was close to getting put out!)

If they're crazy enough to take on MW, they're definitely going long with it.

No existing publisher wanted to touch the Mechwarrior brand and so we have the wonderful people over at IGP. So rage while you can until this thing sinks or swims.

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#10 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:19 PM

Hope is the ultimate seller for anything.

PGI had me hooked on hope ever since it was announced someone was finally taking this over.

I still have hope because I see progress being made.

I play right now because it's mechwarrior & to farm cbills. 1 game a day of 20 is fun. The rest are generally pretty lame quit frankly, and I know Tribes:Ascend would give me a 75% great match rate, vs the 10% MWO currently does.

But there is hope...and a bright future.

Hopefully.

#11 GoriKarafong

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:24 PM

It will be dead for me if it strays to far from canon and looses the BT/MW feeling. Sadly PGI did some bad judgement already (ECM). If I want to play a MMO with shooter and vehicles only I would choose hawken or planerside2.

#12 De La Fresniere

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:39 PM

The only thing I like about the MechWarrior setting is the moderate level of technology and the slow, heavy feel of mechs (as opposed to almost-magical, agile traditional Japanese mechs, for example).

I believe the rest is actually very, very, *very* harmful to this mech game. Arbitrary and unbalanced hardpoints, weapons values, default loadouts and built-in capabilities as well as item costs are all highly detrimental.

Why can't I build a mech with whatever hardpoint configurations (assuming I pay enough for them) I want? Why can't I even just buy an empty chassis and gear it however I want? Instead I have to buy premade ones (most of them with hardpoint configurations that don't interest me at all) and all the junk equipment that comes with them, including engines worth millions of C-bills (and that I don't even use once) because it's all terrible for that chassis and whoever designed the mechs was a moron. Some can equip advanced gear like ECM, but other variants of the same chassis can't; I'm sure it makes sense given the MechWarrior development and continuity, but in a video game it creates serious imbalances and limitations. You want a Raven or Cicada with ECM? You're gonna be using *that* variant. Don't like the hardpoints? Tough, we decided that's what they were going to be and you're gonna live with it.

Instead of doing whatever they must to make the game better, they're limited by the innapropriate MechWarrior canon.

MechWarrior fans will obviously disagree because they love the setting, but... in the absolute, if this wasn't a MechWarrior game, it would probably be much better.

#13 Cerlin

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

If I would have heard about it sure. I like online pvp games. But battletech put me over the edge.

#14 The Cheese

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:49 PM

View PostAdrienne Vorton, on 11 December 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

....you probably wouldn´t be able to post a poll right now^^


Maybe true. I probably wouldn't have been interested nearly as much if I didn't fave fond memories of the franchise.


View PostZeno Scarborough, on 11 December 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

So rage while you can until this thing sinks or swims.

No rage going on here. Just curiosity.

Edited by The Cheese, 11 December 2012 - 11:51 PM.


#15 anonymous175

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:53 PM

Rage is what's considered to be participating on the MWO Forums, The Cheese.

Rage is always going on.

Curiously.

Rage.

It does a forum good.

#16 Windies

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:45 AM

Voted Definitely No, without Mechwarrior this game has nothing. Right now it's riding on the name, that will eventually pass though.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:19 AM

the only reason i've played an online game was i liked mechwarrior as a kid i just happened to notice this one. MWLL skipped me by. i had hope this would rekindle good times but now it's failing miserably and i'm too busy with my life to devote more than an hour or so of gameplay. not that i've played much since this patch came through. yep i definetly wouldn't be here if i didn't see those mechs rendered so well in their different varients.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 12 December 2012 - 01:20 AM.


#18 Wolfways

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

Like many others i'm here because it's BT/MW.
Unlike many others i'm here despite there being a mechlab ;)

#19 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:42 AM

No, I probably wouldn't be interested if it wasn't a Mechwarrior title. That said, I haven't really ever ventured out to check out other stompy robot games. Maybe ther eare some that are also good.

What I like about Mechwarrior games is the general pace, the customization options, and the detail levels with the hit locations.

What I like generally in games is good balance, and MW:O just isn't there it, and from my point of view, for no good reason.

View PostZeno Scarborough, on 11 December 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

Rage is what's considered to be participating on the MWO Forums, The Cheese.

Rage is always going on.

Curiously.

Rage.

It does a forum good.

I am mad-foam-raging right now.

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 12 December 2012 - 01:45 AM.


#20 The Cheese

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:43 AM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 12 December 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

I am mad-foam-raging right now.

Isn't that your natural state of being?





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