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[MustrumRidcully]

The Cheese, on 12 December 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

Isn't that your natural state of being?

Yes. My other state is angry, and you wouldn't like me when I am angry.

Mustrum "In the Hitchhiker's Guide to web posting, I'd be listed as mostly harmless" Ridcully

[Kaijin]

It was the promised canonicity of MWO that compelled me to register on the forum over a year ago, and what prompted me to purchase a Founder's package in support of the game development. It is the mechs I know and love, and the prevalence of ports from TT (factions, engines, equipment, armor values, weapon types damage, heat, and ranges, terrain effects on LOS) and the potential I see for MWO that keeps me playing (testing) this game and participating on these forums.

The farther MWO strays from canon though, the less interested and invested in the game's success I become. Troubling is the trend moving away from a strategic game influenced by a diversity of weapon ranges and the tactical situations born of that diversity, and toward the only game mode being a fast-paced single range demolition derby style of play (brawling) that caters solely to twitch FPS type gamers who sneer at any weapon system or tactic that is not in direct support of their style of play.

I don't mind twitch-based play, and even enjoy it if it's not the only thing I'm doing. However, the day it's certain that MWO is going to be nothing but another twitch-based FPS is the day I write it off as a bad investment and move on to something else. The name can only carry it so far.

[John MatriX82]

In the current state I'd probably say no, I'd have totally skipped it as I am skipping Hawken, if it weren't for the MW brand and Devs should realize that many stick to them thanks to the name.

The Camo milking business model was about to make me abandon everything (I don't care about bobbleheads fluff), since I think they should focus to get few dollars from lots of people (allowing them to personalize many mechs by unlocking a skin and/or a bucket of colors for all the mechs and then use cbills for applying paint as it is for upgrades now), while now they seem to concentrate in getting 10 from few users. And this definitely is a model working for most of the other f2p games, but not in one where a passionate mechwarriors has a constantly growing mech stable.

I suppose I'll have to wait for economy ballast that will come before Christmas. After that things will become clearer and I hope reason will touch their minds.

However it's starting to feel better, although I'm also one of those that complain for the lack of content introduction (mechs above all, and maps). Guess I'll have to take a break sooner or later.

Edited by John MatriX82, 12 December 2012 - 02:28 AM.

[Elkarlo]

I would atm leave MWO if it wasn't for my beloved Mechs
( i got all in Solder we have currently running thats remind me i have to paint my Cat and DRG)

MWO is right now between the Chairs, it startet as a Mechsim from the intention and in the moment it is more and more moving toward the Mechshooter, the problem is: there is a Brandhot Mechshooter comming out based on Cryengine 3, with lot less Bugs a little less Hardware demanging and a lot faster Pace in gaming. Hawken it will be.

So thinking about it: Would i leave a buggy Game with Bugs which increases the Hardware demandings Insanly
( had to drop from VH to Medium now for good FPS) and the Game don't know if it a Tactical Shooter or a Twitch Game...
For a Fast Shooter which knows what it is and seems to be better on the Hardware side.

I would say YES

Would i leave a Cat, Atlas, Jenner, Raven, Cataphract, Hunchi for some unspecific 3 Guns Mech...

NO

But at the moment PGI is killing the "Feel" of the Mechs thanks to their massiv tweaking and Pitching and macking MWO into a Laserbrawl game.

And when it doesn't "Feel" like the Mechs, soon some people ( and me too) will leave because it is not Mechwarrior anylonger.. but Mechshooter with MW names. And then we will choose the better Product.

Edited by Elkarlo, 12 December 2012 - 02:44 AM.

[PurpleNinja]

The only thing sustaining this game is the Battletech/Mechwarrior tag attached to it.

Edited by PurpleNinja, 12 December 2012 - 03:12 AM.

[MahKraah]

de la fresniere:
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MechWarrior fans will obviously disagree because they love the setting, but... in the absolute, if this wasn't a MechWarrior game, it would probably be much better.


it would simply not exist.
the founders financed the basic development with over 5 million dollars, because it is titled mechwarrior and therefor representing the thing they where waiting for 10 years. if it was niot sold to them as battletech/mechwarrior they would simply not have payed at all.

[Skoll Lokeson]

Probably. I prefer waking tanks to flying 'mechs regardless of franchise.

[Stone Wall]

I saw this kind of thread on Diablo 3's forum during that rain of hate on Blizzard's forums.

"What would people think of this game if it was just a RPG and not Diablo 3"

[Chief 117]

no sure myself, I would play it from time to time (few times a month) but not nearly as much as I do now. Also, I play a lot because of my premium status and I want to use it as much as possible

[Joseph Mallan]

I came to this game cause it is MechWarrior, a real time version of BattleTech. I will support every venture that supports the original game I love.

[RedDragon]

I voted "definitely no". But not because the game is bad or incomplete in any way (yes, it is, but it's still a fun game IMO). If it wasn't Mechwarrior, I wouldn't play at all. Didn't play online games for a while now and I'm only back because it's Mechwarrior and I met all the other guys with whom I played 10 years ago in MW4. Never played any other mech-based game outside the MW franchise.
If I'd be interested in Mecha-games in general, I'd certainly stick around even if it wasn't MW.

[Enigmos]

Were it these core elements of the developing game, promising the description of intended game design, and I found it (the Mechwarrior game did attract me enough to look into it), but was called something else then I would likely be here anyway.

[BA Dillard]

I would try it like I have other Mech games. I tried Heavy Gear, Chrome Hounds and several other. None of them has the rich and expansive back story. Plus the Mech designs in mechwarrior just look awesome. I am here for the Universe. It's the one i know and love.

[De La Fresniere]

MahKraah, on 12 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

de la fresniere:
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MechWarrior fans will obviously disagree because they love the setting, but... in the absolute, if this wasn't a MechWarrior game, it would probably be much better.


it would simply not exist.
the founders financed the basic development with over 5 million dollars, because it is titled mechwarrior and therefor representing the thing they where waiting for 10 years. if it was niot sold to them as battletech/mechwarrior they would simply not have payed at all.

There's another mech game running right now, and it's not a MechWarrior game. In fact I don't think it's based on anything, and they still got money to develop it.

Perhaps they might have had to get funding from a larger company and been forced to share profits with investors, but they could have developed a non-MechWarrior Mech game, one they could have balanced freely instead of being forced into TT canon values that just don't work in a video game. And hey, the large company, concerned with getting returns on their investment, would even have whipped them into fixing critical issues...

Really, this game would have been so much better if it hadn't been a MechWarrior game...

[Penance]

Initially I voted "probably no" then changed to "maybe".

It really all depends on the mechs in question. If they used battletech mechs and called the game something else, I'd play. If if didn't involve the BT mechs then definitely not.

So for me, it's more about the actual subject matter than the name.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Probably not. I'm here _because_ of the Mechwarrior setting. Without it the game likely would not have attracted my attention in the first place. I'll never understand the attitude some take towards established IPs (be it in movies, games or whatever) that it's okay to change everything to the point of being unrecognizable in all but name. In that case, what's the point of using an established IP in the first place other than as some sort of dishonest con-game to attract people who were hoping for the real thing?

Not that MWO is at that point, because it isn't, but some forumites seem to be of the opinion that it would be okay to do this. I can only hope PGI do not share that kind of disrespectful opinion.

[Apoc1138]

I've played just about every stompy robots game that's been released in the last 15 years on PC, plus some not on PC... I would have tried MWO even if it had just been called StompyRobots Online... I have tried Hawken and it's not my idea of a stompy robots game, more like COD with robot skins, and I have plenty of generic shooters I play already

I enjoy playing this game and so I will keep playing it until I stop enjoying it... and even then I will probably check back a month / few months later to see if whatever it was that I stopped enjoying has been changed yet

I've been playing MWO for about 6 months... other MMO's I've played I've gotten bored of within 3-4, even when they were supposedly "launched" products... branding has very little to do with why I play this game, my enjoyment has everything to with it

I haven't played table top, I'm only aware of tabletop because of the MW games on PC, and in comparison to other MW games I think PGI are doing a fine job so far.

Edited by Apoc1138, 12 December 2012 - 06:17 AM.

[Exoth3rmic]

If it wasn't 'Mechwarrior' branded I wouldn't even have bothered trying it. I arrived here because of the many years of enjoyment I had in MW:2+.

The corrollary of this being there will be many players, like me, fleshing out the numbers in the game through investigating to see if their nostalgia is still well placed regardless of their interest in BT as a wider IP.

I would say generally speaking that for me the product, as a mechwarrior title, shows great promise. Over the 500 or so games i've played i've had many irritating moments due to bugs, clunkiness, ctds, netcode and personal ineptitude in the face of what is evidently balance issues in a system based on turn based play bent to a real time environment; but i'm still here.

Whether you feel the 'beta' concerns are relevant or not when looking for more 'mechwarrior' features is not my concern when for the period of time that I have been here patches are being produced and new content is added and roadmapped.

It would be a very rare game indeed that delivered all the content that I wanted in one go without patches or expansions and I'm willing to give MWO the time to flesh things out. When the irritations overwhelm any desire to play there's plenty of other things I can be doing.

Edited by Exoth3rmic, 12 December 2012 - 06:21 AM.

[Xenophontis]

Only Mech Warrior game I ever played was Mercenaries 2 when I was younger. I'm here because I think MWO is a great game, I couldn't careless about the "branding".

[CDLord HHGD]

I'm here for the IP and the Lore. Those two things are paramount for me. So far, what is in-game is "close enough", but if this game were branded Steel Battalion Online, I would not be here.