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#1 Xervitus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

I feel like one self pity thread every 8 months isn't unreasonable...so here we go.

Pugging it up as usual, I lost 6 games out of 8 tonight. Whatever, it happens. The thing that is really bugging me is that I am not losing because they are good games that make both sides work for it...nor am I losing because we're getting rolled by premades (I personally feel they are blamed for things when 90% of the time there wasn't one present), I am losing because almost every round we had 1-2 afk or suicide/dc. I finally logged off after this last loss, where fully half my team decided not to play...

Fun no?

Anyways, I know it happens to everyone. Tonight was my turn and it hit me hard.

QQ

PS, in game report system coming when again?

Edited by Niko Snow, 14 December 2012 - 01:14 AM.
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#2 Lanessar

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

You think the guy named kamikazirush was a suicide?

Don't know why you would think that.

#3 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:36 PM

Actually with your stats your team lost because you didn't fight as a team. The Assists column is the tail of the tape in victory and defeat. Unless its a base rush, the team that has the most assists wins the match.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:38 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 13 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Actually with your stats your team lost because you didn't fight as a team. The Assists column is the tail of the tape in victory and defeat. Unless its a base rush, the team that has the most assists wins the match.


did you miss the part where half his team wasn't even in the game?

I think you missed it.

#5 Xervitus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 13 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Actually with your stats your team lost because you didn't fight as a team. The Assists column is the tail of the tape in victory and defeat. Unless its a base rush, the team that has the most assists wins the match.


I disagree, you seriously think we lost because we got no assists (which require kills to be recorded FYI) and not because 4 people didn't move? LoL

#6 Kraven Kor

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

You can only control what you do in this game, and, to a lesser degree, who you do it with.

Find a unit, or continue to play roullette with the Pick Up Group.

PUG's are a crapshoot in nearly every online game.

PGI, nor anyone else, will ever find a way to force players to "play correctly." Whether that involves the constant exploit / patch of hackers and bots, or the simple "I'll grind CBills AFK if I want to" players... doesn't matter. They will be there.

So control who is on your own team. Join a unit, find one that fits your level of seriousness, politics, etc.

#7 DragonsFire

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

Pubbing it isn't always easy, no question about it. So many variables can impact you that you simply can't control.

Among the things I have done to find success when pubbing are just getting a general call to a spot on the map out early on, along with a waypoint, and encouraging the team to stick together at said rally point. In addition, I'm always checking my teammates for 2 things, mech composition so I can have a general idea of the overall makeup of the other team and AFK's.

Any time I have a friendly AFK or 2, I attempt to get my teammates to take up a more defensive and hidden posture close to the cap. This allows your team to better focus fire on the other mechs that overextend to quickly and also leaves the AFK mechs available to be fired upon, which can buy you the time you need to turn the tide of the battle.

This of course doesn't always work, but even a few typed commands to your teammates and choosing the right engagement points that suits your makeup and numbers can go a long ways towards helping secure a win.

Edited by DragonsFire, 13 December 2012 - 02:45 PM.


#8 focuspark

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:43 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 13 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Actually with your stats your team lost because you didn't fight as a team. The Assists column is the tail of the tape in victory and defeat. Unless its a base rush, the team that has the most assists wins the match.

Agreed. I personally don't think kills should be reported. Instead a Kills/Assists combined column should be there. Reasoning: people today go out of their way to land the killing blow. This leads to FF and really stupid things that get people killed.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

View PostXervitus, on 13 December 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

I feel like one self pity thread every 8 months isn't unreasonable...so here we go.

Pugging it up as usual, I lost 6 games out of 8 tonight. Whatever, it happens. The thing that is really bugging me is that I am not losing because they are good games that make both sides work for it...nor am I losing because we're getting rolled by premades (I personally feel they are blamed for things when 90% of the time there wasn't one present), I am losing because almost every round we had 1-2 afk or suicide/dc. I finally logged off after this last loss, where fully half my team decided not to play...

Fun no?

Anyways, I know it happens to everyone. Tonight was my turn and it hit me hard.

QQ

PS, in game report system coming when again?



You should find a guild/clan/corp...whatever we call them in this game. The game's design is heavily biased toward team play, which is just not going to happen very nicely in PUGs, and that isn't even considering the people going out of their way to be asshats.

I got lucky and found a really nice merc group (guild/clan/corp?) and not only has my enjoyment factor in games gone way up over PUGs... I am becoming so spoiled that I will hardly even bother with a PUG game now. (If nothing else just cobble together a group of 2 or 3 friends, and start PUGstomping with your own pre-made team.)

Edited by Niko Snow, 14 December 2012 - 01:15 AM.
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#10 nom de guerre

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

View PostXervitus, on 13 December 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

I feel like one self pity thread every 8 months isn't unreasonable...so here we go.

Pugging it up as usual, I lost 6 games out of 8 tonight. Whatever, it happens. The thing that is really bugging me is that I am not losing because they are good games that make both sides work for it...nor am I losing because we're getting rolled by premades (I personally feel they are blamed for things when 90% of the time there wasn't one present), I am losing because almost every round we had 1-2 afk or suicide/dc. I finally logged off after this last loss, where fully half my team decided not to play...

Fun no?

Anyways, I know it happens to everyone. Tonight was my turn and it hit me hard.

QQ

PS, in game report system coming when again?



looks like proof trial mechs aren't bad the top dude on the score boards in one...

Edited by Niko Snow, 14 December 2012 - 01:15 AM.
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#11 Kommisar

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

Please do realize that not all of us AFKer are "choosing" to not play. Most of us are random disconnects that get booted during loading and then have to wait to see how many CBills we lost because of it. Since the last patch a LOT of guys are having this issue. Yes, it sucks for the guys who are "Left Behind" (Make sure to equip your Kirk Cameron Module for this!), but most of the guys wish they were there.

#12 Lanessar

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

View PostKommisar, on 13 December 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

Please do realize that not all of us AFKer are "choosing" to not play. Most of us are random disconnects that get booted during loading and then have to wait to see how many CBills we lost because of it. Since the last patch a LOT of guys are having this issue. Yes, it sucks for the guys who are "Left Behind" (Make sure to equip your Kirk Cameron Module for this!), but most of the guys wish they were there.


I do agree with this. After about three matches, I get dropped into the Mechlab again suddenly. I usually just log out at that point and do something else, because I hate letting a team down - and that is beyond my control.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:02 PM

View Postnom de guerre, on 13 December 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:



looks like proof trial mechs aren't bad the top dude on the score boards in one...


The top dude only has 264 DMG, clearly OP.

:)

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:03 PM

View PostPurlana, on 13 December 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:


The top dude only has 264 DMG, clearly OP.

:)


still 2 kills 3 assists and 250 damage in the supposedly unplayable trial mechs which per forum posts are supposed to explode if you shoot more than 1 weapon at once...

#15 Xervitus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

View Postnom de guerre, on 13 December 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:


still 2 kills 3 assists and 250 damage in the supposedly unplayable trial mechs which per forum posts are supposed to explode if you shoot more than 1 weapon at once...



Well I don't think you should put too much stock in the stats from this battle, his targets like as not were stationary and not shooting back, lol.

Edited by Xervitus, 13 December 2012 - 03:07 PM.


#16 Purlana

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

View Postnom de guerre, on 13 December 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:


still 2 kills 3 assists and 250 damage in the supposedly unplayable trial mechs which per forum posts are supposed to explode if you shoot more than 1 weapon at once...


Half of the opposing team is missing or suicided, why would it be hard to score 250?

Honestly when did 250 DMG become good?

Edited by Purlana, 13 December 2012 - 03:08 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:10 PM

View PostPurlana, on 13 December 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:


Half of the opposing team is missing or suicided, why would it be hard to score 250?

Honestly when did 250 DMG become good?


when every one seems to think the trials are unplayable etc...

#18 Particle Man

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:15 PM

View PostXervitus, on 13 December 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

PS, in game report system coming when again?


it's too difficult to send an email to support@mwomercs.com that you have to instead pretend to not be naming/shaming because you posted a screenshot instead of typing out their names? Should we report you too? we actually KNOW that you did that.

and you knew they were AFK and didnt get disconnected/CTD/black screen/yellow screen/etc how exactly?
it took you longer to cry about it on the forums where no one gives any f**ks than it would have to report them how you're supposed to.

#19 Haegir

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:19 PM

The same thing keeps happening to me. Last night I had a round in my 4SP where I soloed an Atlas D-DC, Hunch 4P, Cat A1 and Cataphract 4x at the same time. Did 1190 damage and killed 4 , no one else on my team killed ANYTHING and needless to say we lost. Fail.

#20 Xervitus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:26 PM

View PostParticle Man, on 13 December 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:


it's too difficult to send an email to support@mwomercs.com that you have to instead pretend to not be naming/shaming because you posted a screenshot instead of typing out their names? Should we report you too? we actually KNOW that you did that.

and you knew they were AFK and didnt get disconnected/CTD/black screen/yellow screen/etc how exactly?
it took you longer to cry about it on the forums where no one gives any f**ks than it would have to report them how you're supposed to.


I'd suggest you deal with your issues in a personal manner and not misdirect them to random people online, that won't solve anything and just makes us pity you, which isn't good for anyone.

As for emailing support, I have sent them a number of emails over the past month but to be honest it would take up most of my gaming time to do so for every case.

I think you misinterpreted the point of my post, try reading between the lines.

Cheers,



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