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[bikerbass77]

I highly recommend a higher end graphics card. The game engine is a mark up on the one in Crysis 2. If you can run Crysis 2 on high detail you will be OK. If not, it is time to upgrade.

[X101]

It said i can't play only problem is i am and with out problems.

[Vulpesveritas]

Update 8-22-2012

I'm surprised no one has been critiquing my thread lately it seems.


Edit; Updated with Canada.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 22 August 2012 - 03:03 PM.

[Youngblood]

We're not as fast at making money as you are at posting builds.

[Youngblood]

HIS and VisionTek dropped their 7950s to match the 660 Ti's price. HIS's 7950 is especially catching my eye, since it's their blower-style card and is now $60 off.

Edited by Youngblood, 25 August 2012 - 05:01 AM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Youngblood, on 23 August 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

We're not as fast at making money as you are at posting builds.

True.

But people can tell me if I missed something.

[Kilgore]

Kilgore, on 01 August 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

Vulpes,

Will MWO tax the GPU about the same as Crysis, the game shown in the charts on your original post? If so I might have to find a better card than what I was looking at.

Well, I went with this card because of the excellent reviews & popularity, the memory bandwidth and it comes with a simple overclocker.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130759

Well above the minimum requirements and I'm sure I'll appreciate that down the road.

[Razor Kotovsky]

Y U NO INCLUDE GTX560

[Vulpesveritas]

Razor Kotovsky, on 23 August 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Y U NO INCLUDE GTX560

Because the MSRP of the 6870 is lower and they perform nearly identically?

[Vulpesveritas]

unexpected update do to good deals.

[Dymitry]

Vulpes, good advice as usual. But If I may add something, I think you missed a serius contender for the high end segment. I would like to make a point for the Thermaltake level 10 gt. I saw, on various forums, a lot of people - who incidentally do not own, or never worked with one - always reccomend buying something else (Obsidian usually). Since I love going against trends, I went to a pc shop, gave a big 1 on 1 inspection to the obsidian, and then went for the Thermaltake from amazon.

So, aesthetics: Design wise, its a love-or-hate thing. Personally I really like the blocky "space ship from a 70ies sci-fi movie" feel that it has. I bought one, (snow edition), over the Corsair Obsidian 800, that does indeed looks monolithic and impressive, at the price of seeming static?

Anyway, It does looks much much better in real life than in pictures. I was a bit concerned of getting fed up in the long run, especially because I had to place it in a very visible position in the room, but 4 months in I still find myself looking at it without getting nauseous, actually dusting it every week, so I guess its good. Plus it holds the wow factor, whoever has saw it so far has not been left unimpressed by it, that's for sure.

I won't annoy with specs that are easily available everywhere, just a couple of thoughts.
1) performance wise (cooling, silence of operations) is in the same league of the Obsidian, the Thermaltake tends to win a degree here and there (especially when using the "high" fan setting), but generally speaking, they behave in the same way. Where it really shines is silence of operations. Every cooler case that I found (Antec Twelve Hundred V3 for example) is also much noiser, the thermal dissipation/noise is surely among the best, if not THE best among full towers, and that speaks of very good design to me. In real life, it means that the fans in "quiet mode" are barely audible when the pc is idle and get easily outnoised by the PSU, GPU or even CPU ones.

2) Assembling is easy, there is a big hole in the mobo tray to ease installation of aftermarket cooling. Excellent cable managment is super easy in the &quot;front of the house&quot; side, but it takes a bit of time to have everything neat in the "backside" since the space between the right panel and the chassis could have done with a 0.5 cm boost.<

3) All the intakes (3, side, hdds, bottom) have very good filters that are very easily accesible; it literally takes 1 second to remove the bottom and the side ones, and 5 to remove the one on the front. To me this is a huge point, since I can clean the filters whenever I am hoovering my room in a heart beat. I can tell that they also are very good quality since they get filthy dirty and the case interiors 4 months in are still nearly dust free.

4) Front/top panels. Plenty of usb (including 2 3.0), audio connectors and a eSata port. There is also the control for the case fans, light colours and speed.

5) Side panel. Is hinged for whenever you want to open and check fans spinning (?!?) and do minor manteinance/installation, but it can be very quickly removed as well (just fully open it and lift it out of the hinges).

6) The Hdd hot swap bays are cool. Never used them as I struggle to have a use case for &quot;hot swapping&quot;, since my storage is all done on a separate NAS. What they help with, is drives installation. If you get your new, bigger ssd it takes, again, the time to tight 4 screws (ssd to the tray) and you are good to go.

7) Apart from the front panel, every thing else is alluminium. The paint is scratch resistant (I have unwillingly tried it), and the plastic is not painted but moulded white (according to TT).

8) If you feel like taking a case that with all the components in will probably weight as much as a 7 years old to a lan party, there are some nifty security features, the side panel and the hot swaps can be key locked (with the same key, provided in 2 copies). The top handle also helps a great deal in carrying the case.

9) The top and back fan can be easily removed and substituted with LC radiators, 240mm and 120mm ones.

10) It comes in a box so big that you can use to make a garage for your kids toy car, well protected in a cool TT black rug with the headphones holder, some very good quality cable ties and necessary screws.

11) Those lights CAN be completely switched off.

Conclusions, as several reviewers have already stated, if you are looking for a high end case, it would be at your loss not considering this product. The excellent cooling/noise performance means that unless you are planning a huge LC system, you HAVE to consider this. Would I buy it again? In a heartbeat, in fact my next build, which is going to be my gf pc, is very probably going to go inside another one of those, although the black one, because of silent operations and the fact that she loves the looks of it.
A couple of positive reviews:
http://umlan.com/ind...8&Itemid=35
http://www.anandtech...ument-to-excess
http://www.pcgamewar...ke-level-10-gt/
http://www.hardocp.c...hassis_review/1
http://hexus.net/tec...chassis-review/

The only negative one that I could found is the one on techradar. Feel free to read it and validate its quality/reliability yourself. I wonder how some people are allowed to review products at all.

Edited by Dymitry, 24 August 2012 - 03:13 AM.

[ArrowGhost]

I am running the nvidia Quadro 600, game at start states it will not support this Video card and as soon as i hit launch it just freezes on me and then the connection is lost......do i need another video card, never had any problems with it as far as games are concerned although quadro is not designed for gaming.

[SakuranoSenshi]

Doesn't even work on my machine, for whatever reason. No matter, I already know I am fine.

If it works for others and helps some, so be it. However, XP is indeed okay as an OS for MWO and it sounds like it misidentifies the abilities of some processors.

[Euphor Kell]

well, i ran it, but...
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• Your computer has a dual core processor. A quad core processor is recommended.
  
• The performance of your processor is below the recommended requirements.

currently in beta and the game runs fine, even on a dual core (note: it IS overclocked) but still, i only get the occasional stutter in major battles, so don't get disheartened if you don't get the message you want.

[Litefeather]

woot, got a quad core 960T, base is 3.0 GH/z, but i overclocked it to 3.6 stable, 4 cores unlocked, and with a 550Ti with 2Gb of vRAM, should run great.

[Sandpit]

I meet the min specs with the exception of my vid card. I have a Radeon HD6560 1GB on my laptop and I was wondering if someone a bit more tech savvy might be willing to chime in and tell me if they think I might be able to scrape by because I'd really like to get the founders deal but I can't justify the expense if I can't run it. My complete specs are:
Acer Aspire 7741G-3647
i5 450m 2.4GHz
4GB DDR3 RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1GB with up to 2746 Hyper memory

I apologize in advance if I shouldn't post it here but any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated as the deadline for the founders pack is quickly approaching.

[Tarl Cabot]

Radeon HD 5650?

That would likely be right at the bottom of the pile and it may or may not be doable during closed beta. I say that since in many closed betas each game can be rough out of the gate, not optimized for the lower end spectrum systems.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

This site says that an AMD FX-4100 is a dual core processor. So yeah this site is pretty inaccurate with its reviews.

[Fusea]

Everyone needs to take this link with a grain of salt. The site said my i3 with 8 gigs of ram and a 1 gig no-name graphics card could never run MWO, and sure it chugged a bit at the high end of the graphics scale but on medium settings its flawless.

Besides which, the devs are constantly saying they are working on more detailed graphics settings for the game. As soon as you can change the draw distance and drop some of the effects you dont care about, it will run well enough to play. I'm betting even Vettie's old laptop will run the game right now if he drops it to low settings (still a huge improvement over MW4 btw).

So yes if you have questions, run the test, but don't think of it as an immediate death sentance for your ability to play the game.

[NamelessPFG]

Great thread!

I'm surprised to not see the renowned Microsoft SideWinder Force-Feedback 2 reviewed here, though. At first, it looked like a really basic stick, but then I scored one on eBay for a good price and found out why it has a cult following: unlike the other FFB sticks I've tried, it actually has a tight centering force with little slop, and it's very precise. Great for WWI and WWII combat flight sims, though lacking in the button department for modern jet/helicopter sims and maybe MechWarrior. It may be a relatively basic stick with only 8 buttons and a single hat switch, but it does the basics very well.

I also once owned a really nice Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar + RCS setup, modded to the gills. FCC-1 in the stick. UTM bushings in the throttle. CubPilot Hall sensors in the throttle and RCS. I loved it, but money got so tight at one point that I had to sell it off, figuring that I could make do with just the SWFFB2 until I could afford the HOTAS Warthog.

Oddly enough for MechWarrior in general, I always preferred playing it with KB+M like a FPS. Well, maybe not so much the keyboard, but definitely the mouse for more precise aiming. The only time I really played with a stick was in the Virtual World pods years ago, when I had no other choice.

That said, one of these days, I'm going to build a MechWarrior 2 simpit, and it will use a stick.