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#841 Ricardo

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 01:18 PM

View PostDelscorcho, on 30 July 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:


Thanks for your opinion on the G940. I have read alot of similar detailed findings that have steered me away from this setup.

I have read way too much negative about the G940.

Enough to leave me at the steps of Thursmaster with the wallet open to pull the trigger on the Warthog.

Actually I think I am going to be going with these 3 pcs of hardware: (planning to make the purchase on Fri 3 Aug)

Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Joystick
Saitek PRO Flight Combat Rudder Pedals
TrackIr 5 Premium Head Tracking for Gaming
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Thats nearly $750 on sale.. So its a huge jump from my current X52 setup.. Please anyone with this setup let me know any reason not to jump in this direction.

I really want to enjoy MCO with a Joystick and I think this setup would be awesome!!

I am starting to really get into Flight Sims and the X52 is creaky and not very smooth. Love the throttle but not the Joystick. (too loose, creaky, and lacks smooth sensitivity)

Take Care...
I have this exact set up. You can not beat this. I use it for DCS: Black shark and DCS: A10C. I can't find any negatives other than having to rub my wife's feet for a month.

I've yet to set it up for MWO as I am more comfortable with my Razer Deathadder mouse and plainjane KB.

#842 SakuranoSenshi

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

View PostFusea, on 25 August 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:



NDA breach. Please don't talk about the beta outside the beta forum, especially with regards to hardware performance.

#843 Fynn

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 01:16 AM

Right, i've just sent an E-mail to yougamers about there system requeirments for MWO, and asked if they will be updateing to give the correct info for players with the New AMD FX cores (instead of the the wrong readings as posted), and to also correct there min specs to the ones posted here on the MWO site to include WinXP.
As for the NDA breach, if you run the test, and it says you cant run it, but you are currently in the beta, and can run the beta, just stat that, and DONT go in to detail, save that for the beta forums.

#844 Mr Steik

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 01:22 AM

lol it says my CPU is just on the recommended limit :\

i5 2500k OC to 4.4ghz atm

It also reckons that Sleeping Dogs is less demanding then MW:O ....

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#845 Fynn

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 01:39 AM

Right, just got a reply from yougamers, heres there reply
"The Bulldozer issue is being fixed, hopefully next week. It is somewhat complicated in that FX-4xxx processors technically have two cores that can run four threads. However, since AMD markets them as four core processors, we'll detect them as such.

Looks like the requirements have been updated. The ones up now are (as far as I can recall) related to the closed beta. I'll get them updated tomorrow."

so they are aware of the FX cpu issue, and are fixing it, will look again tomorrow to see if they've updated the min specs to include XP

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:50 PM

I'm having trouble cooling my XFX Radeon 6970 HD. Playing very taxing games I noticed a slowdown in the GPU. Turns out the software wants to keep the GPU from cooking. But the GPU won't have it, it seems. I keep failsafe-ing my GPU, which means I hit warranty max temp. I think the main issue is that the XFX model of the 6970 is a single fan, but it's a little late now. I have a big case with plenty of air space, and a fresh air intake 140mm blowing right on the card. I want to fix this before launch, but I don't want to void warranties on cooler components for the GPU. The rest of the components are good temp-wise, never going above 60C even in torture testing. I have 6 fans (4 140mm and 2 120mm) in an ATX Super Tower, do I need more?
case link:http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811121089
GPU link:http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150517

sorry if this is the wrong thread, I couldn't find any better. Perhaps we need a cooling thread?

#847 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:11 PM

The cooler may be misaligned with the GPU on the card. If it's still under warranty i would RMA it, otherwise I would reapply the TIM and reseat the heatsink or install an aftermarket one.

You may also want to guarantee that your case has negative pressure airflow, it will improve cooling. I.e. more exhaust than intake. Though ideally you would have equivalent airflow it is quite difficult to do, hence negative pressure is your best choice. Also make sure your cable routing isn't interfering with your airflow.

#848 Tabrin

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 10:40 PM

What's your take on a G860 3.0GHz dual core processor vs the phenom? Anandtech seems to have it benchmarking better in most tests despite having less cores, and it's cheaper.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:13 AM

View PostTabrin, on 26 August 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:


What's your take on a G860 3.0GHz dual core processor vs the phenom? Anandtech seems to have it benchmarking better in most tests despite having less cores, and it's cheaper.


My first thought is "get the phenom". The G860 may be faster core for core, but MW:O right now pretty much requires a quad core. If I remember, I'll disable the cores/threads so my 2600k is a dual core this evening and see how the game plays. If a 2600k with all threads/cores disabled except two can't run MW:O, no dual core can run it.

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#850 Fynn

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:15 AM

Ok peeps, got another E-mail from yougamers today about the issues mentioned here, and heres there reply:

"The requirements are now updated - they were otherwise already as you listed, except that the minimum used to state Vista (it is now updated to be XP SP3). I assume the developer updated those themselves at some point as I'm quite certain the Vista requirement was present earlier when the game was added.

The FX-4xxx CPU detection thing will take a bit more time to fix but until a fix is deployed, one can go with "if the only thing GoM complains about is the fact that the processor is only dual core while quad core is required", then it passes all other requirements and the game should work."
So XP users should have a pass when testing, and anyone with a FX cpu, should take it as read that the cpu is fine for the game.

#851 JunkyardWolf

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:36 AM

ok i ran it,says i dont meet the minimum, but it also said that to games ive been running for months with no issues. so i aint gonna worry

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:50 PM

hmm EVGA 460 GTX (1gig) does 60 fps at max video settings for all who dont get the stock 460 gtx.

#853 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostHarley2035, on 27 August 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

hmm EVGA 460 GTX (1gig) does 60 fps at max video settings for all who dont get the stock 460 gtx.

At what resolution, with what level of anti aliasing, with what "max video settings", and what game?

#854 spiffy guy

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:28 AM

I opted for a m-atx case with hardly any drive bays because I don't max out the specs on 100 ton 'mechs

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

Raven 3, I have one and love it, though would be nice if the bottom fans were channeled and a bit higher off floor so it doesnt suck as much dust and the filtering could be a bit tighter for that same reason, but beyond this, excellent case.

Enermax Fulmo line is supposed to be sheer excellence as well.

I have tons of reviews etc on my clan website xcfclan, though have to be registered to see it all.

No intention to hog thread here, or steal any traffic by all means..

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:03 AM

I have the X45 still from my FlightSim days and cannot really complain about it. Still have it around actually (because I was not able to sell it for the price I think it is worth)
Perhaps my large hands hid away some problems. F.i. the ruder was no problem for me. Compared to the buttons on top of the joystick that is.

The centering spring issue on the joystick can be taken care of by cable fixers. While in flight sims it was also not so dramatic because I learned to 'uncenter' the joystick during normal flight. Meaning I would already pull back on the joystick to move it out of the center pos.

Anyway I do not plan on using my HOTAS for MWO anyway.

#857 TheTank

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:19 AM

Seeing that my Laptop only has a Nvidia NVS 4200m and my current pc a 8800, I guess I'll have to start looking into an upgrade, though that is not intended in the short term and thus kills my founder plans.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:25 AM

Overall i would rate this post as a great source of information toward future players and possible information on how they like to play with there own style. Me personally i prefer the keyboard and mouse for precition but i've also played with the joystick before in the older games and found it quite lifelike. So it's all generally jsut going to boil down to is that this post originally is designed to help the newcommers into the game for information on what they should get or what they would like to get to make it more realistic for them.

#859 Fynn

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:30 AM

Ok peeps, got another update from yougamers today about the FX-CPU issue
"FX-4xxx processor detection for Game-o-Meter is now updated and the issue should be resolved. We only had FX-8xxx processors to test with in-house so our testing has been limited but it works for them so it should work for FX-4xxx - let us know if this is not the case."
So if anyone here can redo the test with there FX core CPU's and let me know thw results, i can E-mail them back and report any further issues.

@the tank, the 8800 in your PC does meet min specs for the game, what ram and CPU is in your tower PC?
run the test anyway, just to see if the card does make it (it should do)
I was running the beta with a CPU that was under the min spes for the game, and still played fairly well.

p.s when you post with any criticism, please make it construtive, and dont flame.

thank you

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:59 AM

my computer dont meet the min req according to the link above yet plays the game fine at medium settings. so whats up with that? seams this link is incorrect. dont get me wrong a new vid card would be great but i am not getting one on this web sites say so.





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