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Is it just me or do Comstar seem to be the Jerks of battletech


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#41 Urgewyrm

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:35 AM

They get cool robes and work fewer hours and learn all this nifty chants. If people get made at them, they can turn off their cell phones so people can't get to their SpaceFacebook and Space Angry Tetataes.

I mean, how cool is that?

Oh and they have a huge army in their back pocket with shiny tech and drone ships and supermechs and Bolo-class command and control platforms and nukes and nerve gas and sharp sticks and really cool robes!

#42 Bastard Ken

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:54 AM

If our soldiers are not overburdened with money, it is not because they have a distaste for riches; if their lives are not unduly long, it is not because they are disinclined to longevity.

#43 BlazeKaiser

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:01 AM

Comstar's role is to preserve the technology the other IS powers lost. That basically makes them the Brotherhood of Steel/Adeptus mechanicus of battletech.

Like those factions, they will go to war over accessing technology and dont want anyone else to have it.
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Comstar before the clan invasions was divide between the religious order and the secular(non-religious) part. The Secular part did most of the work during the Clan Invasions such as stopping it during the Great Refusal and helping with Operations Bulldog/Serpent.

The religious part eventually became the extremists Word of Blake who tried to annihilate everyone in the IS when they couldnt become part of the Second Star League, as their "destiny" was to join and then rule the IS.

#44 MetalDragoon

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

Comstar went from the jerks to misunderstood really. I mean you had the greedy take over the world people in charge which put on a bad image for Comstar, than you finally had a couple of people come around say they were wrong and change it for the better! And of course you have the hanger ons of the old regime and they splinter off and form their own thingy and muss things up for everybody else eventually.

It started off with a good idea of Jerome Blake sitting back and collecting all the interstellar minutes of the universe and shelling them out to the houses for a profit while keeping the network out of the war. BRILLIANT! You guys beat each other to nothings while I get the latest recipe for Kentares Apple Fritter! But while they beat each other they lost tech and Comstar saved it. Now when they stole it and killed people for it, it was most likely cause they were scared. If one house got the huge advantage over the others and began 'winning' Comstar would have been next.

At least thats what I think.

Edited by MetalDragoon, 19 June 2012 - 03:51 AM.


#45 CSG Gunslinger

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:05 AM

View Postwhiskey tango foxtrot, on 30 May 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

More like it......Paul is comstar !!

lmao :rolleyes:


Now we're talking.

<_<

#46 Asche

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

Comstar is the Apple/Google of the 31st Century

#47 Tannim78

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:17 PM

I dont know whos nuttier Comstar or the capellians.....anyone have a coin? :)

#48 von blood

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:22 PM

Comstar are the jerks of the galaxies

#49 Bastard Ken

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:16 AM

Change from below, the formulation of demands from the populace to end unacceptable injustice, supported by direct action, has played a far larger part in shaping Galactic society than most constitutional lawyers, political commentators, historians or statesmen have ever cared to admit. Direct action in a democratic society is fundamentally an educational exercise.

#50 Skadi

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:23 AM

View PostKairaku, on 19 May 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

They make Machevelli look like an amateur.

Don't trust them further than you can throw an Atlas.

Hmmmm... How many Atlases dose it take to throw an Atlas?

#51 FireNova

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:10 AM

Its good to know that not everyone subscribes to the pro Comstar positions that dominate everything nowadays. I may not agree with everything the Davion's do whether it be in the lore or the gameplay, but at least there are some people out there who have awoken from their slumber and realized the extent to which Comstar tries desperately to maintain the status quo of the Inner Sphere (whether it be through use of media to lie and mislead people, assassination plots to keep knowledgeable people in the Successor States from bringing prosperity to the people of the Inner Sphere without Comstar's guiding hand, full HPG control, keeping lostech from everyone else, etc).

Politicians in real life nowadays (especially these days) will say anything and do anything to maintain hold of power. Every other BT faction may have done huge wrongs in the lore and such (yes including SJ), but none have the power and manipulation capability that Comstar/Word of Blake enjoys with impunity. It really worries me that the masses can be fooled by a dominant faction like Comstar with such ease that everything they say automatically becomes "truth". That being said I salute the fans/playerbase of the Davion community for recognizing the threat that Comstar poses to everyone: Clan and IS power alike. Again, I may not agree fully with the Davions, but if I had to make a choice between which to trust....it would be the NAIS (Davion research/science group). At least then the Inner Sphere would benefit and prosper in a more benevolent Davion rule without Comstar interference/deceit.

#52 Beazle

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:06 AM

OK, first you have to realize that the Clan invasion was a major turning point for Comstar.

Prior to the Invasion Comstar was very much the jerk of the innersphere.

They were not "a communications company" or "AT&T with guns". They were a shadowy group of power hungry conspirators who's sole purpose for being was to drive the innersphere further into ruin so that they, with their carefully horded technology could step out of the shadows and lead humanity into a new era under their leadership. In order to accomplish this, they operated as a neutral communications company so that they would be in the perfect position to gather information one everything going on in the innersphere. They then used that knowledge to incite wars, sabotage research, and destroy any Star League era knowledge that they couldn't keep safely under their control.

They caused the deaths of uncountable numbers of people all for their dream of a united humanity.

Then the Clans came.

At first Comstar thought it was business as usual. They game had some new players, but the rules were still the same. They moved to secure power, using the Clans as their tools by acting as mediators and civilian governors for Clan occupied planets while plotting to pit all the forces of the universe (Clan and IS) against each other in unrelenting war just as they had for hundreds of years in the hopes that they would bomb each other back to the stone age so that they could move in as humanity's saviors.

Then they found out the Clans were after Earth, and weren't going to stop until they got there. All that horded technology and military hardware? Guess where it was. That's right, on Comstar's only planet, the neutral-by-agreement Earth. Thing is the Clans weren't part of that agreement, and they were all racing each other to Earth, mostly for the bragging rights. Earth was so symbolically important to the Clans that which ever Clan got there first could pretty much count on being top dog amongst the Clans for a long, long time.

So, out of shear self preservation, Comstar opened up it's vaults of Star League hardware, challenged the Clans to a battle for Earth by proxy, managed to win, and became the heroes of the day. While they were desperately trying to figure out how to stuff the technology genie back in the bottle, a bunch of internal politics happened, and then i pretty much stopped paying attention.

TLDR version, "jerks" isn't a strong enough word, but anything that would be more accurate wouldn't make it past the language filters.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:34 AM

View PostBeazle, on 29 June 2012 - 01:06 AM, said:

OK, first you have to realize that the Clan invasion was a major turning point for Comstar.

Prior to the Invasion Comstar was very much the jerk of the innersphere.

They were not "a communications company" or "AT&T with guns". They were a shadowy group of power hungry conspirators who's sole purpose for being was to drive the innersphere further into ruin so that they, with their carefully horded technology could step out of the shadows and lead humanity into a new era under their leadership


Absolutely.

ComStar, pre Clan invasion, could be more likened to a massive cult with Illuminati-esque rituals and practices, replacing alchemy with Tech. Until they learned the Clans wanted no part of sharing Terra, ComStar's most valued possession, did they realize they'd need to "open the doors". Let's not forget that Word of Blake is essentially ComStar elements that opposed such a spotlight being shone upon them. Hard to manipulate and scheme when everyone knows just what you're up to.





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