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[Tarriss Halcyon]

With an average ping of 254, I have no lagshield issues. In fact, I'm probably one of the more dangerous fighters because of that - sure, I'm easy to hit when I'm lagging, but when running at full speed...well, let's just say I use two reasonably fast mechs. Not insanely fast, but fast enough to outpace the current flavour of the times, the Raven 3L. If they aren't paying attention, or they focus only on me...well, let's just say any Raven lacking ECM is going to have trouble with me.

[Chazer]

Anyone who used to play MW2:Mercs knows how to counter this. Its called lag shooting....

[Tuku]

I had a raven circling me shooting me in my stalker just a while ago....I had 4 med lasers 2 large lasers and 4 srm6. I backed agianst a wall and let him run past one time....Lasers and kept good track.....another Laser only alpha.....Last a full 4 srm6 volly well tracked and he fell at my feet...

Not saying that the Lagshield is not there and that I cant wait for it to go away but....there are ways to deal with it. I like missiles

[Tarriss Halcyon]

Green Mamba, on 19 December 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

THE RAVEN !

Several threads on it,I made 1 myself..The Naysayers here either are in ;

1. Denial

2.Fibbin'

3. Drive a Raven themselves (this most likely)

OR, in the case of the now-famed Tarriss Halcyon, believe all Ravens are cursed pseudo-mechs added purely to give him grief with their obnoxious pilots and black magic hexes.

I am being serious, I have made numerous comments of that description since I started back in Closed Beta, soon after the Raven was released. Now, I do believe I have a hate-club due to that description. I miss Closed Beta....Ravens were rare and useless...as they should be.

[Sifright]

Grondoval, on 19 December 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

Im just out of a game where one raven with streaks and ECM did like 800 damage and received shots from at least 4 different mechs (my own one included). Isnt it somewhat annoying to see Lights get hit by Medium Lasers continously without any crucial damage been done? Or is there a trick behind it to hit a circling Raven with anything other than streaks?

Or is it me just overreacting out of frustration? :-).

How do i cope with the light mech lag shield?

Well my first coping method is a good bit of glenfiddich whiskey.

My more immediate coping reaction is to hurl abuse at my monitor and maybe throw my shotglass at the wall in a rage when I pound a jenner with a 90 point SRM alpha whilst he runs straight towards me and it does nothing.

Then I proceed to drink straight out of the bottle.

Once thats done I go to bed and try not to have nightmares about the invulnerable *****.

[zverofaust]

No, it's literally as bad as people say. Might even be worse.

I can't count the number of times I've seen a single Raven or Jenner or Commando literally just run circles in the middle of 4 or 5 or more enemy Mechs, all shooting at him, all doing next to no damage.

It's just ridiculous. Totally unacceptable from any game that wants to be taken even remotely serious.

[Kraven Kor]

Yokaiko, on 20 December 2012 - 01:55 AM, said:

I only have to worry about it on people with crappy pings, just a matter of leading...wven with lasers.

Again, it is only certain, random people for me. Seems "not entirely related to ping" though higher ping = higher likelihood of "lag shield" for sure.

Some lights I can hit directly with lasers even when they are running across my view, and I only have to lead them "normally" for SRM's or Autocannons.

Others, I have to "lag shoot" and aim a bit ahead of their model on the screen; about 1 to 2 mech-lenghts.

[Kraven Kor]

zverofaust, on 20 December 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

No, it's literally as bad as people say. Might even be worse.

I can't count the number of times I've seen a single Raven or Jenner or Commando literally just run circles in the middle of 4 or 5 or more enemy Mechs, all shooting at him, all doing next to no damage.

It's just ridiculous. Totally unacceptable from any game that wants to be taken even remotely serious.

I sincerely believe you are overstating this issue (when compared to my own experiences.)

I'm not saying you are wrong; I just that I think some folks are more affected by this than others, and it would be mighty awesome if we could figure out why that is. I bet if we understood why one person has this problem so often that he calls it "unacceptable" while for me, it's merely an annoyance, we would discover the source of the problem and possibly a solution.

[Thorqemada]

Tuku, on 20 December 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

I had a raven circling me shooting me in my stalker just a while ago....I had 4 med lasers 2 large lasers and 4 srm6. I backed agianst a wall and let him run past one time....Lasers and kept good track.....another Laser only alpha.....Last a full 4 srm6 volly well tracked and he fell at my feet...

Not saying that the Lagshield is not there and that I cant wait for it to go away but....there are ways to deal with it. I like missiles

I was in a fight where a Light ***** a Heavy and i came to assist, putting my STK-5S its back to the next wall and firing my weapons at the Light.
The target damage indicator flashed at times but the Light received extreme little damage from all the lasers and i tried to bring it down with several 4x SRM6 salvos.
It ran allways around a bulding the very same way every single round and i think it was 15 salvos of 4x SRM6 until it finally lost a leg.
When it lost its leg it was dead by the next second from the other heavys multiple ACs fire.

I think it was very unfortunate from PGI to allow Lights to go above 130 kph, yet they can go 150kph.
I plioted my founders Jenner with 138kph several times through the middle of a heated battle and received almost no damage as long as i did not slow down.
And Boy, it only has 4SL and 2xSRM4 but its a killer...

Edited by Thorqemada, 20 December 2012 - 08:07 AM.

[ReissTC]

Leading's fine, usually predictable enough. Then there's the teleporting mechs. Ugh.

For smooth ones, leading with lasers is easy enough. (Except for the stalker and its tiny torso twist) Warpers? Always keep streak SRMs just in case.

Ping usually around 100-150 (In the UK).

[Ozric]

Grondoval, on 19 December 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

How do you cope with the infamous lagshield?

With a nice cup of tea.

Edited by Ozric, 20 December 2012 - 08:20 AM.

[WhiteCatInsurgency]

Since I have a ping of 240+ I run streaks. Since ECM has come in I've had to aquire ecm in order to counter other ecm so that I can continue to use streaks to deter and eliminate lights. There is ZERO other options in order to kill even semi competent lights with Australian latency.

[Sturmbringer]

I have a ping of 130 and I HATE those little buggers. Especially those who are abusing the lag shield mechanics on purpose. 3xPPC shots at a Ravens leg.. Armor just turns yellow.. yeah riiiight.

My jaw literally dropped.. my eyes got big as I checked the dmg and I was like... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Edited by Sturmbringer, 20 December 2012 - 08:27 AM.

[Gigastrike]

I don't have a problem with it. Then again, I get somewhere around 30 ping.

[Flapdrol]

~120 ms ping here. I have to lead by 2 or 3 mech lengths to do most damage.

try to be patient when fighting lights, chainfire and keep your heat down, when they run off or in a straight line towards you do an alpha strike.

streaks also work if they're not too ecm heavy, pulse lasers is the second best bet.

Edited by Flapdrol, 20 December 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[Stargazer86]

Sweep the leg.

No, really. Drag your lasers across a light mech's legs. They don't have a lagshield when they're crippled. And there's nothing more satisfying in this game then watching a mech that's been skipping around the screen like Speedy Gonzalez suddenly get turned into a Wounded Duck in a matter of moments.

Of course, you still have to be able to hit him through his shield to begin with. I find that if you hold your fire and wait until the mech is running straight towards or straight away from you that it helps. Trying to hit a lagmech that's running from left to right is an effort in frustration.

[Joseph Mallan]

I have no idea what you're talking about! I'll join this converstaion soon as I kill this Jenner! Just another day or 4 and I'll have him!

[Mister Blastman]

I lag shoot the lag shield.