65 replies to this topic

[Zero Neutral]

The kill should go to whoever destroys the mech.

[LarkinOmega]

Had someone do this during 8mans today. We were floored.

[John Norad]

Make the death count, reward XP.
Fix the cause, remove the lol'ing, don't add a band-aid.
Move along, nothing to see.

[Pariah Devalis]

Stats:

Spoiler

0
MechWarrior® Credits

1,158 / 423
Kills / Death

6,039,301
C-Bills

859,137
XP

692 / 383
Wins / Losses

2.74
Kill / Death Ratio

190,047.99
Accumulative C-Bills Per Match

799.20
Avg. XP Per Match

And I still agree, KDR should not really be public knowledge to anyone. It only takes the killing hit into account, not who does 99% of the damage that leads to a target's death. It is a broken stat in its current implementation. What gets me is, even after the last patch, I could crash and my mech still registers as in game and I get negative points if it gets wrecked, yet Mr. Alt-F4 is still able to disconnect cleanly with no harm done to his statistics.

The fact that a workaround for an accurate KDR exists, combined with the fact that you do not even need to have actually EARNED the kill to be credited it combine to make it a toxic statistic to have in the game.

[SuomiWarder]

Until I see stats from PGI about how many disconnects happen mid game to show that there is a statistically significant number of people bailing mid game I'm not going to worry about it.

[Pariah Devalis]

What I think is just as bad on the opposite end of the spectrum is the new wave of people who will, quite literally, throw themselves in front of (and on top of if possible) a badly damaged enemy mech, regardless of whether or not they actually shot it previously, so that nobody else can shoot the thing but them. Body blocking to grab the kill to inflate their score.


It is one of the few times I have very little issue shooting a teammate, and the fact that in all likelihood they did not even earn the kill is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Broceratops]

the stats are way screwed up because of 3 months of no matchmaking and pugstomping, that's for sure. if they want to reset it i'd be okay with that. i got no issues with starting over


edit:

statwise. no way i'm grinding these mechs again!

Edited by Broceratops, 22 December 2012 - 08:06 PM.

[Tigerhawk71]

The Cheese, on 22 December 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Aint' gonna happen, I'm afraid.

Best that can happen IMO is that the devs add in some kind of punishment for leaving a game early to deter the "leave before you kill me lol" behaviour.

I'd suggest something like what WoW did with it's battlegrounds: a short lockout from other matches if you quit the fight early. Something like 5-10 minutes wouldn't hurt a disco too much, as it won't happen to them a whole lot unless they crash every other match (in that cese, they got bigger problems), but it's enough to annoy the crap out of someone who quits every time they're about to die just so their stats aren't hit.

How about if the players mech dies after they disconnect, it counts as a death

Why do we need a more complex solution than this?

Please, state a reason why you need a more complex solution than this. You instantly solve the root cause of the problem with minimal work.

Edited by Tigerhawk71, 22 December 2012 - 08:15 PM.

[Ghogiel]

Yes it happens on a fairly regular basis. It does kinda **** me off.

[Carnivoris]

I've personally been engaged in combat and about to die when my client crashed. Then again, I don't give a single **** about my stats. I don't even know where to view them. They don't matter to me. I've also never seen someone quit when I was about to kill them. If this is happening, **** it. Who cares? That's just one less mech you gotta worry about for the rest of the match.

[Ghogiel]

Carnivoris, on 22 December 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

I've personally been engaged in combat and about to die when my client crashed. Then again, I don't give a single **** about my stats. I don't even know where to view them. They don't matter to me. I've also never seen someone quit when I was about to kill them. If this is happening, **** it. Who cares? That's just one less mech you gotta worry about for the rest of the match.

When someone does it, sometimes the match won't end and you have to cap to finish it.

[Particle Man]

Zynk, on 22 December 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

PLESE REMOVE THE KDR STAT!

It's becoming an epidemic I see 2 - 6 people per match hitting Alt F4 to keep their KDR stat artificially inflated.

it's a long standing problem that is considered greifing by the devs. write down the person's name and report them to support@mwomercs.com

[Jot Nara]

Funny, I only seem to ctd when I'm about to get a kill, not when I'm about to be killed.

[Musabre]

On a 1.47 Kdr since using a simple and fun quad laser cicada. I'd just like to say that while I'm one of those who gets a big buzz out of watching my kdr go up, I'm proud of the hard work and careful tactics that have allowed me to kill more often than die.
And personally, the hassle of alt-F4-ing out of every game just through fear of death sounds like more hassle than even this game's worth :-/.

Just to poke fun at myself aswell, my regular 2 or 3 peeps who sometimes group up with me don't give two shirts about their kdr's and It's only a good thing haha.

Edited by Musabre, 22 December 2012 - 08:51 PM.

[Star Captain Obvious Kerensky]

Quitting the map early counts as a death; be it crash, disconnect, or Alt-F4.

Problem solved.

[p00k]

people will do it regardless.
there were people doing it the day before open beta when we all knew stats were getting wiped

[Xyroc]

Eldragon, on 22 December 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Quitting the map early counts as a death; be it crash, disconnect, or Alt-F4.

Problem solved.

no just created another topic for people to post and complain about.

[Malora Sidewinder]

Zynk, on 22 December 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

PLESE REMOVE THE KDR STAT!

It's becoming an epidemic I see 2 - 6 people per match hitting Alt F4 to keep their KDR stat artificially inflated.

But it also screws me out of experience for a kill I would have had and I could care less about my KDR stat I want the experience for the kill.

No. Seriously, stop complaining. KDR is a neccesary stat, and you should ask them to include *MOAR* stats (captures, damage done. I do not alt f4 to keep my kd up (which is 5/1 because i am a *damn* good pilot) and i don't want to lose access to it because people like you won't stop QQing.

[Kaijin]

p00k, on 22 December 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

people will do it regardless.
there were people doing it the day before open beta when we all knew stats were getting wiped

Aye. ragequit happens. Even if they are not preserving their KDR or denying anyone a kill, there will still be some who alt+F4 due to rage.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Look, it's not their fault that they are unable to come to terms with their insecurities over the size of their little buddies despite the fact that it is almost certainly sufficient to bring some fun to their gender of choice's life.

If the above sounds like you, see a psychologist and overcome this silly fear of yours. Heck, read the kama sutra and get some ideas. Don't continue to try and substitute meaningless bits of data for your little guy, he is your friend and can be your greatest ally if you but let him. So please, stop being a pain and play honestly and fairly, who knows you might just get lucky.

This has been a public service announcement from a Narcissist. That you needed it is a testament to the quality of your character. So cheers.