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[ShadowThunder77]

which one is the best for serious well rounded Brawling??

[Pr8Dator]

Atlas is still the go-to brawler.

Edited by Pr8Dator, 03 January 2013 - 07:45 AM.

[El Bandito]

Stalker 5M.

Cheesiest son of a gun brawler ever rolled out of the assembly line. Davion forbid if you meet one in the tunnel.

Stack SRMs, earn C-Bills by killing all other assault mechs.

Edited by El Bandito, 03 January 2013 - 07:49 AM.

[Snib]

ShadowThunder77, on 03 January 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

which one is the best for serious well rounded Brawling??

Well what are you looking for? Out of those 3 the Atlas has the most armor plus one ECM variant, the Cataphract has the most mobility and a hero variant available, while the Stalker can carry silly amounts of weaponry.

All 3 can be killed by a light mech. There is no "best" in this game, there are just options that might fit your play style better.

[Pr8Dator]

Yeah, the best brawler is an ECM Raven...

[ShadowThunder77]

by best i mean can use powerful weapons sutied for any range

[Legendary357]

Snib, on 03 January 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

Well what are you looking for? Out of those 3 the Atlas has the most armor plus one ECM variant, the Cataphract has the most mobility and a hero variant available, while the Stalker can carry silly amounts of weaponry.

All 3 can be killed by a light mech. There is no "best" in this game, there are just options that might fit your play style better.

If you get killed by a light in a cataphract you are either fighting 2+ or you need to practice leading.

[Bilbo]

I'd go with the Atlas. Even in the tunnel the Stalker has too little maneuverability. I like the Cataphract, but I still prefer my Atlas.

[Asapiophobe Vortex]

Well Stalker can stick most weapons on. I like Catapharact most, because the extra mobility it offers is just what I need to be able to play a brawler the way I like to play one. Assaults are too slow for my play style. Both atlas and stalker have their strong points, so the only one that can tell which one is better is you.

I guess If i went for assault atm, i would go for D-DC because it has all 3 weapon type hardpoints, pretty well distributed, just the way I'm used from my CTF-2x and on top of it all, it has ECM... Really nice mech imo.

[ShadowThunder77]

since it depends on playstyles that makes it even harder to choose

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

ShadowThunder77, on 03 January 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

which one is the best for serious well rounded Brawling??

You can pretty much do this on any of these. But the Stalker+Atlas is painfully slow. If you want to move faster than grass grows, you might want to take the Cataphract instead. Other than that, you have their loadouts to take into account. Cataphract is mostly E+B. Stalker is entirely E+M. Atlas has a mixture on all variants.

Edited by Bluten, 03 January 2013 - 08:18 AM.

[Bilbo]

ShadowThunder77, on 03 January 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

since it depends on playstyles that makes it even harder to choose

Pretty much. If you haven't played the assault class yet, you might want to start with the Atlas. The lack of maneuverabilty on the Stalker really is a huge liability in a brawl if you aren't used to it.

[Apoc1138]

Bluten, on 03 January 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

You can pretty much do this on any of these. But the Stalker+Atlas is painfully slow. If you want to move faster than grass grows, you might want to take the Cataphract instead. Other than that, you have their loadouts to take into account. Cataphract is mostly E+B. Stalker is entirely E+M. Atlas has a mixture on all variants.

except the 2X and 4X which also have missile hard points

[Death Weasel]

Legendary357, on 03 January 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

If you get killed by a light in a cataphract you are either fighting 2+ or you need to practice leading.

I kill Frankenmechs all the time. I get killed by them all the time too.
They have no special powers, just like I don't. I just comes down to who gets the better shots.
You can't lead something that stays out of your firing arc, and I get killed when the other guy has support.

[Dishevel]

I have to say I love my 5M 4xSRM6s w/Art and 4xMLs.
Heat management is decent with it and it can put out a very decent alpha strike and do it a few times before I need to even start thinking of managing my heat.

[Mercworks]

I would go with the Atlas-DC, if for no other reasons than:

1) It has ECM, and I'm sick of PUG dropping with 7 other people, none of whom brought ECM, or who did, but (lookin' at you Ravens) think that their job is to run off ahead, taking their ECM bubble with them. They get a really good view of the enemy while they fling rack after rack of LRMs at us.

2) Max armor. People say "speed is armor", but really, "armor is armor". Most times, I don't think that the small speed differential between the Cataphract and the Atlas makes as much difference as the extra plate.

3) Arms. The Stalker's big vulnerability, and not just against lights, is the fact that it doesn't have the ability to use the arm arcs. I can't count the number of times I've popped over a hill to find that my torso weapons can't go down (or up) enough to hit.

4) Really balanced hardpoints. An Atlas has a nice diversity of hardpoints that let you tailor your mech to the fighting style you want. Want to recreate the Marauder II, can do. Need a nice loadout of lrms, two 20s can make it.

The Cataphract's big advantage is the speed (on one mark), nice ballistics hardpoints, and one jump capable chassis. I like the Stalker's ability to carry multiple (and multiple of multiple) of missile tubes, but the lack of arms means that if you lose your wingman, you're pretty boned,

[ShadowThunder77]

how are the 3 prievousy mentioned mechs at heat management??

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

ShadowThunder77, on 03 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

how are the 3 prievousy mentioned mechs at heat management??

That depends more on how you build it. Any Mech can be great at heat management, or horrible.

[Redshift2k5]

ShadowThunder77, on 03 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

how are the 3 prievousy mentioned mechs at heat management??

Heat managment has nothing to do with the mech. Heat managment comes from how many heatsinks you can fit into your build, how hot your weapons run, and more importantly how you use them. No mech has heat management that is any different than any other mech.

[r4plez]

ECM Raven is best assault brawler! It its Atlases, Stalkers, Awesomes and other crap for dinner. Only problem is i dont like to play easy mode.

Edited by r4plez, 03 January 2013 - 08:38 AM.