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[Bishop Steiner]

Kobold, on 03 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Half-Life Source has had in game voice since the early 2000s. Hawken, Planetside 2, and other contemporary competition for MWO have it. If someone doesn't like it, mute a person or turn it off completely. But its presence would go a long way to improving gameplay for solo players, as well as enabling interaction between solo players and small groups.

totally agreed.. though it sadly doesn't help with the "you arent my boss" idiots you can drop with. But integrated VOIP is a no brainer.. so you would think, anyhow.

[Paul MaudDib]

I do it all the time in ghost recon. I listen to where there might be a sniper or if an area is clear or if I need to back up some one. All I need to do is listen and my K/D ratio and my points and xp rises quickly. I might not be able to say anything but actually listening is even more powerful in game.
I lump casual game = main stream. They play games but have short attention spans, or not a lot of money (esp. these days), or job family and life does not allow a lot of time, Or like you, that all they want is to hop in a game with 0 load time and 0 wait time and start shooting/playing/flying..etc. Well the I want I want I want is the nature of any forum. We all do it.

Edited by Paul MaudDib, 06 January 2013 - 08:23 PM.

[N0MAD]

Paul MaudDib, on 06 January 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

not really...it is a matter of convience, resources used in the pc and wanting a fast team up with people for a couple matches. But in my case i do not have a mic. Nor will i go out to buy one just for a game and or dload 3rd party software to play. Most general public gamers are casual, and do not see the need to do this since most modern fts games already have it built in. I do not want to install alot of software on my pc in general, its my rig and i just dont want it. So there are several reasons not just 1.
Anyways, its not in the game now, and i do not see the devs even to attempting to do this since all the issues they are having now...i have 0 hope.

Since you dont have a Mic and have no intention of getting one or making any effort to communicate with others what F.Fing diference is VOIP going to make to you?, so why are you even bothering to post here?.
Star Trek Online has VOIP guess what? no one uses it in Pug games NO one except those that say SQUARK or similar interesting conversation..

[Paul MaudDib]

N0MAD, on 06 January 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Since you dont have a Mic and have no intention of getting one or making any effort to communicate with others what F.Fing diference is VOIP going to make to you?, so why are you even bothering to post here?.
Star Trek Online has VOIP guess what? no one uses it in Pug games NO one except those that say SQUARK or similar interesting conversation..

lol another typical circlejerker....go away u useless piece of flesh..and learn to read..

[N0MAD]

Insults are a great way to reply to an argument shows just how intelectual you are keep up the good work.

[Paul MaudDib]

Naw...i just dont put up with that kinda crap. I end up pointing to posts like yours to new people who want to join, and warn them this is what you will run into. Hostel natives.

Edited by Paul MaudDib, 06 January 2013 - 08:40 PM.

[N0MAD]

Paul MaudDib, on 06 January 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

lol another typical circlejerker....go away u useless piece of flesh..and learn to read..

So we should point them to posts like this, im sure this will bring them in by the droves..

[Paul MaudDib]

Hey, yer the one who is doing all the greifing and complaining. Do what you want. I really do not care. just go away.

Edited by Paul MaudDib, 06 January 2013 - 08:48 PM.

[N0MAD]

Actually you were the one complaining, i merely pointed out that you were not prepared to make any effort to communicate except to come here and complain, when you were confronted with that you quickly resorted to insults. Shall we continue or are you going to resort to insults again..

[Felix]

rather simple.

If they introduce in game VOIP that can be jammed and what not by in game equipment, you just count people using TS/Vent/Mumble/ect as cheaters and ban them for avoiding proper in game equipment.

Not getting banned is plenty of an advantage!

[Paul MaudDib]

N0MAD, on 06 January 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Actually you were the one complaining, i merely pointed out that you were not prepared to make any effort to communicate except to come here and complain, when you were confronted with that you quickly resorted to insults. Shall we continue or are you going to resort to insults again..

Reread my posts..there is no complaing.Stop wasting our time with your rage posting. We do not care about you, so go away.

Felix

You bring up an interesting idea..im a little confused tho. Are you talking ablout a viop hack or some in game mechanic that the other team can use?

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

The reason I tend to be against ingame voip, is that if you go with a subpar system, you get a subpar system... no matter how good the intergration is.

I already heard that C3's "Call quality" blows horribly, and is terribly sub-par compaired to TS, Vent or Mumble's quality.

Have I seen VOIP done well in games? Yes, ArmA II has an amazing system that seems to work well, has falloff over distance, and overall feels, good. However even that system has been enhanced with a Team Speak addon called "ACER" which makes radio communication work like actual military radio communication, and if you're outside of the radio distance, but picking up signal, it's horribly mangled and you can't make out what's being said.

Ingame VOIP will never be perfect unless you're Microsoft's X-box live service... and even then there are problems.

[N0MAD]

I dont particularly care if they add VOIP or not to games, usually if they do it just means the game uses more resourse and bogs servers down added to the fact that individuals will abuse it with all types of garbage comming thru your speakers. Clearly the issue is whether people want to communicate or not for those that do there is options, for those that dont no matter what you add they wont anyway. With todays computers adding VOIP wont make much diff to the game but it will not solve the problem of not being able to communicate with Pug team mates because as we see not all want to.

[Felix]

Paul MaudDib, on 06 January 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Reread my posts..there is no complaing.Stop wasting our time with your rage posting. We do not care about you, so go away.

Felix

You bring up an interesting idea..im a little confused tho. Are you talking ablout a viop hack or some in game mechanic that the other team can use?

Well, if PGI adds VOIP into the game, and it can be interfered with by some module or equipment, then using external VOIP services should be considered an exploit, as you would be using them to gain an unfair advantage, just like those using aimbots or other programs used to change the game experience.

[Paul MaudDib]

ah! ic ...ok thanx fer clearing that up!
I never really thought of the 3rd party voip like that. good point. Ya, any program in game ,in theory, can be hacked or exploited. I guess its the nature of things in mmo gaming in general.

Edited by Paul MaudDib, 06 January 2013 - 09:23 PM.

[Ihasa]

N0MAD, on 06 January 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Since you dont have a Mic and have no intention of getting one or making any effort to communicate with others what F.Fing diference is VOIP going to make to you?, so why are you even bothering to post here?.
Star Trek Online has VOIP guess what? no one uses it in Pug games NO one except those that say SQUARK or similar interesting conversation..

Respectfully Sir N0mad:

Like many other things in STO, Cryptics integration of VOIP (same company that does C3, Vivox in fact) was done half-assed and hardly a stunning success. Also Vivox/C3 blows That is why no pugs use it there. Well that and the Kirk Syndrome, which oddly exists in great amounts in this game too.

To the OP.
Plenty of other people use Teamspeak without a microphone too. You can type responses to queries pre game in chat, other people in your chat group will hear a ping that means someone typed something. Then you launch, play, win, have more fun and profit! TeamSpeak uses less resources than most other VOIP programs and its pretty easy to use. There are 3 common server addresses to use (Comstar NA, Comstar EU, NGNG). I have that, Skype, C3, Ventrillo and Mumble all installed just for gaming. They do not impact system performance at all (well skype does sometimes when connected to large groups because it's always on for everyone).


Cheers
formerly GenXCraig, SOB fleet.

Edited by Ihasa, 06 January 2013 - 09:27 PM.

[Soy]

Paul MaudDib, on 03 January 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

I play Ghost Recon online, and they have an internal VoIP. No going to a shady 3rd party co. and using their software and such.

Loooooooooooooooooooooool @ "shady 3rd party co. software"

Seriously? Skype and TS and stuff is shady 3rd party co. software?

Anyone remember back in the Dialup days, voice conferencing? Ma Bell is hella shady.

LAN parties? High-fiving one another across the table is very shady.

[Redmond Spiderhammer]

Axeman316, on 03 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

What will ruin this game is if solo people are catered to. MWO is a team game and should be balanced around team players.

Seriously ?!

More helpful input from yet another person who cant grasp that the game is a team game regardless of any pre-grouping or third party programs. You log in solo you end up on one of two teams in any given match... really... and I mean this with as much respect as possible.. how can people not understand this.

If they are going to balance it around pre-grouping then that needs to be part of the core game mechanic. There should be absolutely zero need or reason (aside from personal preference) to use third party software. If its not part of the actual game (ie; built into the client) then it cannot be the driving force behind game balance.

[Redmond Spiderhammer]

Brilig, on 04 January 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

Q: Is anything going to be done about in-game voice options? The C3 thing seems deserted/abandoned, and I've never seen it used. We really need voice with PUGs. Tell me something good is going to happen here, please. ;_; [Levesque]
A: We're still on it, don't worry. I don't have specific dates to give you, but as soon as I do I will let you know [Garth]

From ask the devs 29.

http://mwomercs.com/...vs-29a-answers/

cool a surprisingly informative and useful post from one of these discussions...

thanks

[h00n]

All the grognards are going to whine about how they don't want to hear children over their speakers/headset with integrated voip.

Planetside 2 has voip integrated for EVERYONE. In the months I was in closed beta and since release in November I have had to listen to ONE underage kid yelling over voip. I muted him.

Proximity, squad, and leader chat has saved my skin countless times. It has turned an Alamo defense into a reinforced assault. Has gotten my MAX repaired so that I may go forth to collect the souls of purple scum.

MWO is even more team oriented. My friends don't care for the game, so my teamspeak server is for naught in regards to MWO. I'm not going to roll with someone else's group. I NEED in-game voip. I need to coordinate with the randoms I drop with.

This is a basic NEED and it needed integration in closed beta.