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#1 So Booboolicious

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

Been thinkin' about it for awhile....

Why do I want one?

They give me a giggly tingle in some special area on my person....I dunno....

;)

Would appreciate those who are proud Awesome pilots to weigh-in.

Thanks!

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

No you should not.

#3 Sandslice

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:42 PM

They take some getting used to, having such a big front facing, and sure "the numbers" say you should prefer a Stalker or ECM Atlas... but the Awesome is pretty fun.

I've been known to stomp around in a blue and purple 8q or 8r from time to time... that time being like all the time, at least when I'm not running my Jenner. ;)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostSandslice, on 06 January 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

They take some getting used to, having such a big front facing, and sure "the numbers" say you should prefer a Stalker or ECM Atlas... but the Awesome is pretty fun.

I've been known to stomp around in a blue and purple 8q or 8r from time to time... that time being like all the time, at least when I'm not running my Jenner. ;)

Jeah, I sorta see it as a challenge.

It's chest and back are quite broad.

I've read that the hit-boxes are wonky an' larger than the Atlas.

But all that just makes me want to get on even more, lol.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:59 PM

Try it but don't expect much. It's big, easy to hit, slow, and unmaneuverable. Other mech with a similar hardpoint setup will do the job better. They're not free kills but they're probably the closest thing there is in MWO.

Consider: They're probably the least used Assault mech. And the lightest. Which means you'll most likely give the other team an Atlas or Stalker.

While you can play sniper with PPC's they're not the most effective large weapon. And your light armor, slow speed and HUGE center torso means you're less effective as a brawler.

Cataphracts and Catapults can use similar configs more effectively.

Edited by Sug, 06 January 2013 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

View PostSug, on 06 January 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Try it but don't expect much. It's big, easy to hit, slow, and unmaneuverable. Other mech with a similar hardpoint setup will do the job better. They're not free kills but they're probably the closest thing there is in MWO.

Consider: They're probably the least used Assault mech. And the lightest. Which means you'll most likely give the other team an Atlas or Stalker.

While you can play sniper with PPC's they're not the most effective large weapon. And your light armor, slow speed and HUGE center torso means you're less effective as a brawler.

Cataphracts and Catapults can use similar configs more effectively.

You're right.

I have considered droppin' with an Awesome would likely give the other team a Stalker or an Atlas.

I do know that they are the least played Assault, possibly the least played Mech.

But....

I still wanna just UNF one.

#7 LethalRose

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

I have a lot of fun in my 9m.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:16 PM

After buying 2, I can't recommend them. At all. They're just so squishy for an assault mech.

But I have seem some great Awesome pilots, running them as Brawlers.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

I have mastered the Awesome and I still think it is my most effective mech, the Atlas was too slow and unmanueverable and the Stalker in theory should be better in every way but it just doesn't feel at smooth to me. This could be because i have mastered it and only have 2 stalkers currently.

I find my Awesome with 4 Srm6 gets much more constistent damage to enemy mechs because all of the missiles hardpoints are torso mounted with no hatch to delay the firing. The stalker however had 2 arm missile hardpoints in the arms that also hatch a hacth and if you get the 5 missiles stalker one missile point will only shoot one missile at a time, the result is the damage is much more spread out and the additional laser support just makes me overheat a lot more.

Also the 9M is the fastest assault mech by far and easily one of the strongest brawlers in the game (I need to get one but it is just too dang expensive :) PGI needs to let you buy the base chassis with no weapons or engine in place IMO cause I would get rid of the 320 XL engine first thing when i bought it anyway ).

I also thoroughly enjoy my 4 PPCs stalker and I feel it does a better job at that than the awesomes i have tried to do it on. The 4 PPCs in the arms of the stalker are higher up and allow less exposure needed to make shots. I think both are great mechs but I always seem to do best all around in my awesomes as compared to any other mech. My K/D is fairly good too and my most used mech by far is one of the 3 awesome variants I own.

PS. is there a way to track and see your total damage done on your account?
PPS. never use an XL engine in one, it turns you into a mech that is as easy to down as a hunchback because those side torsos can go down quick

Edited by Tw1stedMonkey, 06 January 2013 - 10:18 PM.


#10 LethalRose

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

Here is an awesome guide it might help you decide.

http://mwomercs.com/...ariant-covered/

I think the 9m is the only one worth getting with stalkers I can't think of many roles an awesome can fill that a stalker can't (excluding 9m)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

Awesome = Hardcore mode.

Put the awesomes left arm between you and your opponents to stay in the battle a little longer.

Edited by Sears, 06 January 2013 - 10:24 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostTw1stedMonkey, on 06 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

I have mastered the Awesome and I still think it is my most effective mech, the Atlas was too slow and unmanueverable and the Stalker in theory should be better in every way but it just doesn't feel at smooth to me. This could be because i have mastered it and only have 2 stalkers currently.

I find my Awesome with 4 Srm6 gets much more constistent damage to enemy mechs because all of the missiles hardpoints are torso mounted with no hatch to delay the firing. The stalker however had 2 arm missile hardpoints in the arms that also hatch a hacth and if you get the 5 missiles stalker one missile point will only shoot one missile at a time, the result is the damage is much more spread out and the additional laser support just makes me overheat a lot more.

Also the 9M is the fastest assault mech by far and easily one of the strongest brawlers in the game (I need to get one but it is just too dang expensive :) PGI needs to let you buy the base chassis with no weapons or engine in place IMO cause I would get rid of the 320 XL engine first thing when i bought it anyway ).

I also thoroughly enjoy my 4 PPCs stalker and I feel it does a better job at that than the awesomes i have tried to do it on. The 4 PPCs in the arms of the stalker are higher up and allow less exposure needed to make shots. I think both are great mechs but I always seem to do best all around in my awesomes as compared to any other mech. My K/D is fairly good too and my most used mech by far is one of the 3 awesome variants I own.

PS. is there a way to track and see your total damage done on your account?
PPS. never use an XL engine in one, it turns you into a mech that is as easy to down as a hunchback because those side torsos can go down quick

Hmmm.

Very good.

I believe that if you just stick with one Mech an' play the hell out of it you'd get quite proficient with it.

Relatively.

I appreciate the details.

=^)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:30 PM

If people ignore you, you can do some major damage. But that can be said of anything : /

Awesome is a support mech but there are no support roles for it to fill.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:31 PM

Save up your cash and buy Highlanders when they come. For now, stick with Atlases.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

View PostLethalRose, on 06 January 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

Here is an awesome guide it might help you decide.

http://mwomercs.com/...ariant-covered/

I think the 9m is the only one worth getting with stalkers I can't think of many roles an awesome can fill that a stalker can't (excluding 9m)

Thanks, Rose.

Will take a gander.

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View PostSears, on 06 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Awesome = Hardcore mode.

Put the awesomes left arm between you and your opponents to stay in the battle a little longer.

Tip appreciated.

=^)

View PostArmandTulsen, on 06 January 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

Save up your cash and buy Highlanders when they come. For now, stick with Atlases.

Oh, I'll get a Highlander.

But I want an Awesome, too.

=^Þ

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

If you do get a awesome put a max sized engine in it and a max sized xl in the 9M. Boating long range weapons like PPCs is a mistake with it because the awesome is at a disadvantage sniping long range due to its large boxy shape. You can do it but you are at a disadvantage. It should stay moving and use cover to try to negate that disadvantage. Awesomes have better burst damage than atlases. They are good at popping around corners or over hills and doing large amounts of damage by boating lasers or SRMs. If you're not doing that, then waiting for your teammates to engage first and then engage also works. The 8R can also make a good LRM boat but I don't do that much. Despite what some have said about its disadvantages, I'll take my awesomes over my atlases if I had to choose between the two. Here are two configs that I use.

AWS 8R
17 DHS
standard 290 engine
3 Med lasers
4 SRM6 (7 tons ammo)
2 case
1 AMS (2 tons ammo)
1 beagle probe
464/494 (took some armor out of legs and weaponless arm. 70 in front center torso)
Despite having less tonnage than other assaults, I had spare tonnage to waste on extra AMS ammo and a beagle probe... It alphas for 75 with heat efficiency of 1.21. It goes 65 with speed tweak. Use similarly to that Cat a1 SRM boat but with lasers for when you need to hit a precise spot.

AWS 9M
23 DHS
xl 385 engine
5 med laser
1 large laser (arm)
1 streak SRM2 (arm 1ton ammo in leg)
1 AMS (1ton ammo in leg)
1 Beagle probe
464/494 (armor taken from legs. 60 in center torso)
Again despite having less tonnage available than other assaults I still waste some on beagle. It goes about 85 with speed tweak and burst fires specific areas of a mech. With or without streak its very effective against lights if you can aim. Alpha is 39 with heat efficiency of 1.3.

I get very good scores with these mechs. Some of it has to do with skill but they are solid mechs and just as good as an atlas when piloted/built well.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostSoulscour, on 06 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

If you do get a awesome put a max sized engine in it and a max sized xl in the 9M. Boating long range weapons like PPCs is a mistake with it because the awesome is at a disadvantage sniping long range due to its large boxy shape. You can do it but you are at a disadvantage. It should stay moving and use cover to try to negate that disadvantage. Awesomes have better burst damage than atlases. They are good at popping around corners or over hills and doing large amounts of damage by boating lasers or SRMs. If you're not doing that, then waiting for your teammates to engage first and then engage also works. The 8R can also make a good LRM boat but I don't do that much. Despite what some have said about its disadvantages, I'll take my awesomes over my atlases if I had to choose between the two. Here are two configs that I use.

AWS 8R
17 DHS
standard 290 engine
3 Med lasers
4 SRM6 (7 tons ammo)
2 case
1 AMS (2 tons ammo)
1 beagle probe
464/494 (took some armor out of legs and weaponless arm. 70 in front center torso)
Despite having less tonnage than other assaults, I had spare tonnage to waste on extra AMS ammo and a beagle probe... It alphas for 75 with heat efficiency of 1.21. It goes 65 with speed tweak. Use similarly to that Cat a1 SRM boat but with lasers for when you need to hit a precise spot.

AWS 9M
23 DHS
xl 385 engine
5 med laser
1 large laser (arm)
1 streak SRM2 (arm 1ton ammo in leg)
1 AMS (1ton ammo in leg)
1 Beagle probe
464/494 (armor taken from legs. 60 in center torso)
Again despite having less tonnage available than other assaults I still waste some on beagle. It goes about 85 with speed tweak and burst fires specific areas of a mech. With or without streak its very effective against lights if you can aim. Alpha is 39 with heat efficiency of 1.3.

I get very good scores with these mechs. Some of it has to do with skill but they are solid mechs and just as good as an atlas when piloted/built well.

Very cool.

I'll try your 8R build whenever possible.

Thanks for the input.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

View PostSug, on 06 January 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

If people ignore you, you can do some major damage. But that can be said of anything : /

Awesome is a support mech but there are no support roles for it to fill.


I can easily flank atlas's in my 9m going 85KPH. You can also chase down wounded heavies/mediums.

As long as you torso twist a ton to spread out the damage and don't rush in you shouldn't get focused.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:16 PM

View PostLethalRose, on 06 January 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:


I can easily flank atlas's in my 9m going 85KPH. You can also chase down wounded heavies/mediums.

As long as you torso twist a ton to spread out the damage and don't rush in you shouldn't get focused.

Jeah.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking.

Play smart, let others initiate, pick my targets wisely.

Which is hardly any different from how I normally play.

I would need to be less conspicious, though.

Compared to the Atlas or Stalker, anyways.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostTw1stedMonkey, on 06 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

PS. is there a way to track and see your total damage done on your account?
PPS. never use an XL engine in one, it turns you into a mech that is as easy to down as a hunchback because those side torsos can go down quick


Yes you can. Login first. Then click on 'Profile' n then 'Stats'

EDIT-

Damn it they dont show it anymore :)

Edited by RainbowToh, 06 January 2013 - 11:26 PM.






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