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[Carcass23]

There is some ok discussion without Beedles piping in every so often. Pretty sure the OP has the attention span of a 2 year old and is an older player switching accounts and posting the same nonsense over and over for lolz. I for one am getting sick of seeing these posers *or did I mean posters?* I think I also find it oddly entertaining or I wouldnt browse these forums.

1 There is no grind in this game, there is only the game. I can blow up any build of mech with any mech.
2 I am glad the OP is frustrated, the current system weeds out the weak.
4 This is not the thread you are looking for. *wave of hand*

[Ozric]

Despite all the hate he has attracted, the OP does have a totally valid point given the current state of progression. Very, very slow. XP gains are working well, but cbills since the last patch just dribble in and unless you are pugstomping with a high W/L ratio it really is quite a grind.

Anyone who isn't pugstomping knows this, so I can only assume that the people denying it spend most of their time worrying about their stats.

I expect further balancing. You should too.

[Wintersdark]

Beedles, on 07 January 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/.../11798-jetfire/ please post screen shots of this becuase i make at most 90k winning in f2p

please break down HOW you are getting these amazing scores you must be a god! want to brag about something else that isnt big BUT you say it is?

seriously? Go to Google+, don't even bother making an account if you don't have one. Search for me (Derrick Whittet) or check out the Mechwarrior Online community. I regularly post game play videos there.

I'm reasonably bad at the game. I started last month. I run exclusively pugs.

None of the videos I've posted show a win where I make less than 100k, typically more at 130k. That's at a fairly low average damage done of around 400.

Anyways, to your overall complaint: I don't want to see the game in a state where you'd make enough to buy every mech variant in a month of play period, even a month of hardcore play.

You'd run out of game in a month.

I only play a couple games a night, and hour tops. I've got elite in Dragons now, and an absurd amount of xp in a commando (my first mech). I've also owned a pair of stalkers, which I sold due to hating playing them. Getting Elite in my dragons means I've bought 3, and have sold the two I'm not playing actively.

That seems pretty reasonable - 6 mechs purchased(and outfitted! Millions more specific than right there) over about a month of very casual play.

[Ewigan]

a) i ONLY ALWAY PUG
my stats say that i make 116,458.00 per game

so tell me Ozric, is that really not an ok amount of cash? with games taking an average... let's say 10 minutes, i make ~700k an hour.

If you play this game AND want to make progress, meaning leveling your mechs, you will get shitloads of money.
Right now i am mastering my stalkers and already have 4 Mios laying around to start my next mech to master.

[Brut4ce]

TexAss, on 08 January 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I think you all got trolled. Stop responding to this thread, it's really bad....

That....

[Cleverbird]

It only took me 2 days to get a 9M, which is one of the most expensive mechs there is... And I had fun doing it
This game is only considered p2w if you're an impatient little kid who just wants, wants, wants, wants, wants

Oh, and I only PUG. I dont want to listen to people telling me what to do

[Ozric]

My income has halved since the last patch, that seems like quite a jump to me. As I have said in other threads, I believe the rewards for victory have not been properly balanced to compensate for the loss of R&R, but also that with the unbalanced matchmaking the rewards can not be properly balanced right now. Hopefully phase 3 will be the answer.

Ever have those mornings when you realize you posted in a thread you shouldn't have?

[Mr 144]

Ozric, on 08 January 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Despite all the hate he has attracted, the OP does have a totally valid point given the current state of progression. Very, very slow. XP gains are working well, but cbills since the last patch just dribble in and unless you are pugstomping with a high W/L ratio it really is quite a grind.

Anyone who isn't pugstomping knows this, so I can only assume that the people denying it spend most of their time worrying about their stats.

I expect further balancing. You should too.

Myth, Rumour, Falsehood.

Up until about 2 weeks ago, I pugged 75-80% of the time. The remaining time was text only grouping...no Voice Whatsoever Until Christmas Eve. I average ~103k per game, and ~380XP per game. I have played over 1400 games since open beta and have a 757/667 W/L and a 1.10 K/D ratio. Other than the sheer number of games played (which in this case is helpful to establish a baseline) I have mediocre-at-best stats. I am very proud to say that I reached a 1.0 K/D ratio before EVER grouping, so no pugstomping here. This was also done with R&R still in game, and with artemis/streak/LRM expenditures.

I spend C-bills pretty willy-nilly...sporadically buying XLs and such to test new builds. Even with my spending, I own an HBK-4SP (fully upgraded, then sold, 2 other variants upon elite), an AWS-9M (expensive), and 3 'phracts (not counting the Ilya I bought for xmas) including the expensive 3D. So presently, I have owned 7 fullt outfitted mechs, pretty much every HS break-point engine I need, both XL and Standard, and large multiples of any weapon in the game....all F2P.

You'll also notice no founder's tag by my name. I tested (detailed) many different econmies in closed beta, and if you can't make money with this one, something is wrong. That 'something' can include anything from player skill, build choices, or severe bad luck...but it does not represent the present state of the game's economy. I now own an Ilya (30% boost) and am grouping regularily so my stats will most assuredly change for the better.

TL,DR: Play Better, The grind is the game, Spend real-life money if patience is not your forte', but do not blame the current easy-button economy.

Mr 144

[neviu]

[Asapiophobe Vortex]

I don't find it takes too long to buy a mech at all. I bought 8 mechs by now, 3 of them being the expensive model (AW9, CN9-D and D-DC). And yeah I haven't spend a single MC for that. All CBills.

And the amount of stupid in saying that this game is p2w is just so overwhelming I won't bother commenting on that at all...

Edited by Asapiophobe Vortex, 08 January 2013 - 04:00 AM.

[Kadaje]

No premium time, not a founder, no hero mechs. I still made 12 mil over the last week... and I am happy saving it til i empty a mechbay so I can purchase a stalker. If this is "too long" especially after the cadet bonus or the 1 time payment bonus we got... then you're lazy and no amount of work the devs do will help you. Learn to enjoy each match, find some good people to play with if you can, it doesnt feel like such a grind, just my 2 cents.

[El Bandito]

I can get an Atlas in MWO faster than I can get a 6300 IP camp in League of Legends.

So yeah, compared with other F2P titles, it is not a hard grind. Just play Assault mode and stack UAC5s.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 January 2013 - 04:10 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Beedles, on 07 January 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...-joseph-mallan/ please post screen shot of your millions and lets say you made 100k per game which is not what most get but illl give you that
1. 1ook per game
2. 15min games
3. 40mil divided by 100k = 400 games
4. 400 x 15 minutes = 6000 mintues or 100 hours

of course this is assumeing you spent no money at all

K. Thanks by! Cause I make the money doesn't mean I still have it! Buy a mech try it. don't like it, strip it sell it. Counting weekends I put in 48 hours a week playing this game 4 hours a night min Mon-Fri and up to 14 hours a day Sat/Sun. I can quit whenever I want to

YOUR STATISTICS

4,015MechWarrior® Credits

1,101 / 1,010Kills / Death

7,478,331C-Bills

1,129,703XP

1,210 / 722Wins / Losses

1.09Kill / Death Ratio


160,091.45 Accumulative C-Bills Per Match

584.73Avg. XP Per Match

My Cut and Past is lacking this morning.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 08 January 2013 - 05:02 AM.