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[Beedles]

I have been playing this game on and off since closed beta. and its getting not fun at all. It takes WAY to long to make cash to get items to run mechs and god forbid you like a OP item because all that cash you spent is now useless because they WILL nerfed the hell out of it. Bottom line is they need to change this from pay to WIN to something else. THEY hope all you people will spend cash to get the stuff you NEED to play, instead of waiting for ever to get it.

P.S. I know the fanboys will pull the L2P, its not a PTW. but it is, just see how long it takes to make cash to get a good mech with all the gear you need.(founders have a unfair advantage and NEVER should have been issued a cash increase that is not available to everyone else.)

[McRoll]

Well, what should I say.. I play without premium account and make a lot of money. Right now I have 6 mil in excess and I dont know what to spend it on.

If you suck at this game it doesnt mean it's P2W. In fact I am amazed how easy it is to make money here and progress. World of Tanks, War Thunder etc takes far longer to reach a certain level.

So yeah. L2P buddy.

[superteds]

is today stupid thread day or something?

[Tennex]

i agree there seems to be a huge grind in the game. And its not that the slow cash rate is the issue as much as there isn't enough content to compliment the grind time.

[McRoll]

This is why you don't play for 10 hours straight but on and off, a couple games a day is enough to not get bored.

BTW, you can get a mech you want right in the beginning instead of buying 9 mechs first to get to the 10 th. You choose your mech and play well with it and the xp and cash are rolling in. How anybody can say the grind is long here.... you need to try a couple of other games to get a perspective.

[Beedles]

http://mwomercs.com/.../418153-mcroll/ write all the hate you want. facts are facts game takes way to long to get items to play they need to rethink the goal. i want the game to survive not die due to unplayablilty

[Davers]

Sorry you aren't enjoying your free game. I am having a great time. I played this 100x more than any other title. I am really glad I took a gamble and invested early. It has really payed off.

[Cerebelli]

The Cadet Bonus you receive for your first 25 matches should put you in position to be able to buy an Atlas, the most expensive mech in the game. From my experience with other games, that isn't half bad.

The only thing you really can't get at that point are the Hero mechs, which are by no means insta-win buttons. Because of this, I have to disagree with your view of the game as P2W.

I do agree with Tennex, though, in that the content that you receive from the grind can be lacking if you don't like the mechs that become available to you. At least you don't have to deal with the trial mechs anymore.

[MegaZordTrololo]

I'd say it takes 10 hours of play to make enough to fully trick out a mech, doesn't seem so bad to me. I think it's more that you are not finding the game fun (anymore).

More game modes would be nice. Conquest barely counts as points become relevant in something like 1% of games.

[TruePoindexter]

If you're winning a reasonable amount and contributing to the team you should be making plenty of money - that was the point of the removal of repair. I hate to say it but if you're really hurting for money and are impatient then just create a new account and milk the 25 game cadet bonus to start over. By the end of that bonus you will have made more than enough money to buy practically any mech you want in the game and outfit it how you wish.

[HurlockHolmes]

superteds, on 07 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

is today stupid thread day or something?

yes

[AdmirableAdmiral]

ehhh, what?

it's not p2w pal. I haven't even activated my premium time yet and I'm rolling with my second atlas (that's about 40 mill(I play with meklab too much)
I haven't really gotten in a premade in a while so I'm not even doing that. just average 3 kills a match and do more team based scoring and you'll make about 100k a match. each match lasts 10-15 minutes and an atlas is around 12m

that's 1800 minutes atleast or 30 hours. if you play maybe 3 hours a day which is easy then you can get it in 10 days. how ever if you're like me and want to mess around or its your first mech then something like 15 days which is still easy to do

all this is for a moderate atlas

Edited by klimentvoroshilov, 07 January 2013 - 05:38 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Beedles, on 07 January 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

I have been playing this game on and off since closed beta. and its getting not fun at all. It takes WAY to long to make cash to get items to run mechs and god forbid you like a OP item because all that cash you spent is now useless because they WILL nerfed the hell out of it. Bottom line is they need to change this from pay to WIN to something else. THEY hope all you people will spend cash to get the stuff you NEED to play, instead of waiting for ever to get it.

P.S. I know the fanboys will pull the L2P, its not a PTW. but it is, just see how long it takes to make cash to get a good mech with all the gear you need.(founders have a unfair advantage and NEVER should have been issued a cash increase that is not available to everyone else.)

One, we paid for the cash increase. Two, I've also made 40Mil in the last 3 weeks with NO FOUNDERS BONUS!!!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 07 January 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[McRoll]

Why is it fact? For me it is fact that it doesn't take long. Maybe it does for you, but it is an entirely different matter. Do you have any statistics or a survey with at least 1k people to get a representative result?

What exactly is too expensive for you? How much money do you make on average in a game? I make between 100.000 -130.000 a game if its a win and around 40.000 if its a loss. Without premium. With 10 good games I can easily make a million or more. I dont know how much the others can get but I suppose it is more. As fas as XP is concerned, between 500 and 1000 a game. This is plenty and you have more than enough time to research the basics before you have the money to get another mech variant if you want to elite stuff. For weapons it takes even less, they are pretty cheap, you can get enough mney for every weapon with a couple of good games.

I don't see your problem here.

[Jetfire]

So wait... you think it's unfair that founders bought a package that is essentially some bonus MC, premium time and a lesser Hero Mech for real cash? Your real cash today can buy you all that. None of that is denied you, just the 4 specific Founders mechs which make 25% CB bonus rather than the Hero mech 30%.

Premium time is available, there is no RnR anymore, you get a Cadet Bonus. What exactly do you want from a F2P game that you have decided to pay nothing to play. It's going to be a grind. That said, with just premium bonus I have made $50 million CBills in the last month playing maybe 2-3 hours a day 3-4 days a week.

[Beedles]

You are not getting the point. great you got 2 atlas for blah blah blah...there a a ton of mech ALL with diferent play styles that will take you for ever to get and equip AND YOU'L HAVE TO buy the space to have them along with the other three mechs for each one you like to get the tree skills. This is a P2W. If you want to be stuck in the same mech for ever good for you i dont i like to play differnet styles plus i dont have to time to grind. And i did get frustrated like they wanted us too and bought MC stil doesnt help.

[MadcatX]

Nah, I wouldn't say L2P.

I'd say "welcome to a F2P game business model".

[verybad]

superteds, on 07 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

is today stupid thread day or something?

Well, it's ONE of them.

[eblackthorn]

I tried the new player experience after the cadet change and its not bad at all. I was in a fully loaded cataphract in about 2 hrs. Sure the next mech is going to take sometime to get but its not impossible and you will have a good mech to help grind those cbills. This game is FREE to play and you can get just about everything in the game without spending a cent of your own. and have no combat disadvantage.

[Caboose30]

Probably from someone used to playing CoD or Counter Strike - or as I call them, the re-spawn game. Play five seconds, die, re-spawn. Play another ten seconds, someone sends your face through the back of your head, re-spawn again. This game is meant to be a thinking game and act as a unit. Hence the conquest mode, which takes a fair bit of strategy to win.