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[a rabid chihuahua]

Grraarrgghh, on 09 January 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

You dont hav a case becuz yer not a lawyer dummy.

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[Novawrecker]

Yokaiko, on 09 January 2013 - 07:24 AM, said:

OK so you have a Raven going +130kph how do you avoid it short of Cicada or Jenner?
Not to mention that if the beam drops off for like a millisecond missile lose lock....yeah still sucks range or not.

A well placed, T I M E D, and carefully aimed shot w/ direct-fire weapons.
It's been done in the past, still works, and will continue to work.

The smart light mech will run away from that shooter, which, in most cases, will open that player up to others to take him down while he avoids the sharp-shooter.

It's not a 100% perfect solution, but it works majority of the times.

[Long Draw]

This may sound crazy, but why not give players with guided missiles a toggle to switch those missiles to "Pre-Armed" mode where they always explode on impact, no matter what they impact? The downside to this Pre-Armed mode could be that if the launcher takes any direct damage to the launcher's health, that there is a chance for the weapon to be destroyed, much like the AC20 and Gauss Rifle have.

[random51]

Tag is awesome, I pity the players who haven't figured this out. I pity the people on their team even more.

People need to stop waiting for ECM to be "fixed". Their definition of "fixed" doesn't jive with that of the developers, or most other reasonable people.

NARC on the other hand is pointless. More weight, requires ammo, isn't instant-on. A NARC "hit" would have to tag a target for at least a minute to make it begin to be worthwhile.

Edited by random51, 10 January 2013 - 03:46 PM.

[Davers]

Exp bonuses for NARC won't help. NARC is such a second class citizen to TAG in every conceivable way.

[Mizore]

Yeah, and why? Because there's too much ECM... and btw. the whole debate sounds like the only purpose of tag is to counter ECM, but... for me that's just a clear sign that ECM is too strong

Edited by Mizore, 10 January 2013 - 04:02 PM.

[random51]

Mizore, on 10 January 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Yeah, and why? Because there's too much ECM... and btw. the whole debate sounds like the only purpose of tag is to counter ECM, but... for me that's just a clear sign that ECM is too strong

For me it is a sign that people are too ignorant.

I mounted Tag on my LRM-boats *before* ECM was added to game and before its range was tripled.

[repete]

random51, on 10 January 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

People need to stop waiting for ECM to be "fixed". Their definition of "fixed" doesn't jive with that of the developers, or most other reasonable people.

Translation: "I like ECM so you're wrong"

[Davers]

While the 'reasonable people' part is being debated every day here on the forums, the Devs did say that ECM was working 'as intended'.

repete, on 10 January 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Translation: "I like ECM so you're wrong"

random51, on 10 January 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

People need to stop waiting for ECM to be "fixed". Their definition of "fixed" doesn't jive with that of the developers, or most other reasonable people.

[Mizore]

random51, on 10 January 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

For me it is a sign that people are too ignorant.

I mounted Tag on my LRM-boats *before* ECM was added to game and before its range was tripled.

And I mounted Narc *before* ECM was added... it was quite useless those days... now it's completely useless!

Oh and have much fun tagging those ECM Ravens... they avoid 90% of the missile damage because of their speed

I've seen so many lrm boats even with Tag that were so easily countered and ripped away by those lagshield-streak-ECM Ravens, it's amusing to read those comments on how easy it is to counter ECM by using Tag XD

Your biggest fault is, that you always assume to see those ECM Ravens approaching from far away but... reality proves you wrong.
Do you know how easy it is even without ECM to sneak behind the enemy team?
You'd be surprised^^

And once you're in the enemy bubble, you're nothing else than a walking junkyard with a broken laserpointer!

Edited by Mizore, 10 January 2013 - 04:37 PM.

[verybad]

Novawrecker, on 09 January 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'm sorry, you're being challenged to think outside the box??? Go back to playing WoW if it's too much to handle ....

Uhh, there's this thing called sarcasm...

[hammerreborn]

Mizore, on 10 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

And I mounted Narc *before* ECM was added... it was quite useless those days... now it's completely useless!

Oh and have much fun tagging those ECM Ravens... they avoid 90% of the missile damage because of their speed

I've seen so many lrm boats even with Tag that were so easily countered and ripped away by those lagshield-streak-ECM Ravens, it's amusing to read those comments on how easy it is to counter ECM by using Tag XD

Your biggest fault is, that you always assume to see those ECM Ravens approaching from far away but... reality proves you wrong.
Do you know how easy it is even without ECM to sneak behind the enemy team?
You'd be surprised^^

And once you're in the enemy bubble, you're nothing else than a walking junkyard with a broken laserpointer!

And even if a awesome got behind a LRM mech...you do realize the LRM mech still wouldn't be able to fire.

I never got this argument. Hurrdurr TAG is bad because a Raven can get within 180m...you know, where you can't fire the LRMs anyways.

[Satori Komeiji]

*Shrug*

I'd probably think about taking TAG just for $$ on quite a few chassis if it gave something like 2.5k per 'tagged'. I certainly wouldn't be taking it as an anti-ECM measure though.

[random51]

repete, on 10 January 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Translation: "I like ECM so you're wrong"

Translation: "I assume what you think, making an ******* of myself and missing the point at the same time."

I carried Tag before ECM, not sure how you use that to determine that I "like" ECM. Seems to me it would mean that I "like" Tag, which is what I said in the first place.

Then again, reading comprehension isn't really needed to QQ all over the forums.

I do admit I don't see the problem with ECM. Maybe I'm lucky in that in every mech build I pilot one can find 2 Mark I Eyeballs which are a hard counter to ECM for direct fire weaponry. Every build I drive with indirect fire weaponry had an ECM counter equipped before ECM was added to the game.

I suspect that a majority of the ECM complaints are actually lag-armor complaints in sheep's clothing.

Edited by random51, 10 January 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Davers]

random51, on 10 January 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

I suspect that a majority of the ECM complaints are actually lag-armor complaints in sheep's clothing.

Very much this.