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Poll: Warhammer, Hammerhands? (69 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you be on board with PGI creating the Warhammer using the Hammerhands art to get around the HG copyright problem?

  1. No! I want the Warhammer, in all its original glory! F#$% Harmony Gold! (9 votes [13.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  2. No, but Im willing to accept the Reseen Version of the Warhammer as a compromise......also, F#$% Harmony Gold, on General Principle. (23 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. .......You know what? I could live with the Warhammer looking like the Hammerhands to get this mech ingame. (11 votes [15.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.94%

  4. Wow, thats kinda cool looking! How bout we just forgo the Warhammer, and put the Hammerhands ingame?....of course, lets create a Warhammer capable Variant, just for discussion..... (12 votes [17.39%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  5. .....Why can't we have both again? (6 votes [8.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  6. Well, just for the sake of Discussion..... (insert idea, positive or negative discourse, or general discourse in post below) (4 votes [5.80%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.80%

  7. Forget this Warhammer/Hammerhands business! Battleaxe, anyone?! (4 votes [5.80%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.80%

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#21 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:09 AM

Having played MW3/4 I was only ever obsessed about clantech - until i saw the MW5 trailer. Now very dissappointed that the warhammer (or marauder) won't be appearing in this game. Hold out hope for the Warhammer IIc?

#22 sir tahn maihem

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:21 AM

I've always wanted the Warhammer for its capabilities more than its art, so unseen vs reseen doesn't matter to much to me as long as its getting new MWO style art makeover. As for the Hammerhands... I want one for the same reasons I want a Warhammer. I like the stock loadouts on both and the hardpoints would allow for some great builds.

#23 Heeden

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:56 AM

View PostARCTICF0X, on 14 January 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

It was called the Excaliber in Robotech.

Just throwing that in incase anyone wanted to know :-)


Wasn't it the Tomahawk, or was that in the unmodified Macross?

#24 Elkarlo

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:07 AM

Gimme a Warhammer...

Btw PGI made the wrong Hero Mech....

Take a Phract,
Swap the Ballistic hardpoint for a SRM6 hardpoint, putt in the Sidetorso's 2 Energy Hardpoints ( M-Laser and Small Laser ) and give him two "right" Arms with PPC inside.

Sell it for 6000MC

Make TONS of Money...

That would be the correct way.

Edited by Elkarlo, 15 January 2013 - 08:07 AM.


#25 Sedant

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:09 AM

This whole business of the "unseen" and "reseen" has for me ruined OG Battletech..... Wheres my original Marauder.., No offense to any of the new contributors to the appearance of those original mechs that changed, but ya done gone and ruined a good thing :)

#26 Bounty Dogg

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:32 AM

@Sedant:

I dunno. Ive seen a reimagining of a Marauder that I think belonged to the Northwind Highlanders that was absolutely breathtaking. I could DRIVE one of those! (was never a Marauder fan).

Here it is: http://browse.devian...auder-309448707

#27 DirePhoenix

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:34 PM

View PostTennex, on 14 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

i'm not sure how this law stuff works.

for example if the original Raven were intellectual property. With the MWO raven looking so drastically different from the original raven. would there still be a copyright issue? or there would simply because it is called the raven and is based on a copywrited raven?

any lawyers in here ? lol


so if they gave the warhammer the same treatment they did to the raven. would the hypothetical MWO warhammer still be infringing on copyright?


PGI does not have any of the rights to use art from the Technical Readouts (or any printed material for that matter. That right belongs to Topps, who is licensing the rights to Catalyst for current Battletech print media), or any of the previous games (which belongs to the individual game makers). All art for MWO has to be made exclusively for MWO. Regardless of "Unseen" status or not.

Hence, there should be no issue with PGI making their own art for the Unseen.

That being said, I would not mind if the Warhammer ended up looking more like the Hammerhands, I just don't want a Hammerhands instead of a Warhammer.

The Hammerhands is 5 tons heavier, the arms are ballistics instead of energy, and it's lacking ballistic hardpoints in the torsos.

EDIT: this is probably much like the Cataphract, in that no matter how you configure it, will never really be a Marauder. It's 5 tons too light and you can't mount the same composition of gear. At best it stands as a failure for being "almost" but never able to reach its full potential.

Edited by DirePhoenix, 10 February 2013 - 12:43 PM.






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