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[BIGSHELL]

Like impaledface stated, with AC/20 and 3ML which is what I use, DHS, Endo, you can consistantly go over 400 or about 500 in most matches. I have a huge bias for the 4G because that is my baby! She can brawl like a beast and with a bit of an engine upgrade she can go pretty quick too. Honestly, the extra lazers of the 4H might make it run pretty hot, and I wouldnt give up the coring power of the AC/20 for anything. There are few things that compare to the feeling of coring out an assault mech and watching it slump over like a ton of bricks.

[TheRevanent]

Thanks for the input folks. Looks like I'll be getting a 4H if I can in fact mount an AC/20 on it eventually, I prefer to have more versatility in my laser loadouts as well. Thanks for the input guys, I'll see you on the battlefield.

[Regrets]

I don't own a hunchie, but the 4P scares the living hell out of me everytime I see one running 9 SL (or 7 SL+2 ML). Get that, run as many DHS and the largest engine you can (so as many engine DHS as possible). This coming from a Stalker pilot, lol.

You just need to be strategic about how you run up on people. It is definitely a gank mech.

[TruePoindexter]

Regrets, on 14 January 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

I don't own a hunchie, but the 4P scares the living hell out of me everytime I see one running 9 SL (or 7 SL+2 ML). Get that, run as many DHS and the largest engine you can (so as many engine DHS as possible). This coming from a Stalker pilot, lol.

You just need to be strategic about how you run up on people. It is definitely a gank mech.

The SL 4P is one stuck in the closed beta mindset when you could mount a 300XL on a Hunchback and SL's were the only lasers you could fire without encountering massive heat issues.

ML 4Ps can mount massive engines and large batteries of lasers when optimized correctly. Here's mine:

7 ML 2 MPL STD255
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ad12cacaa2b8fb0

[Capt Jester]

Adding on to discussion, which one do you guys think would be better to get first? I finished Basic on my 4SP and am ready to move on to the next one, either a 4G or 4H. Does anybody have a 2xUAC/5 builds for the 4G, or is there just not enough tonnage?

[Devil Fox]

As most have mentioned the 4H will win out over the 4G due to the better diversity of energy hardpoints (lagshield weapons) and the fact you typically don't/can't run more then one large ballistic weapon in a hunchback effectively. My 4H turned into a 5ML and an LBX10 with a Std245 engine, endo and DHS. Fast, hurts, and punishs light mechs who run around the backlines too long.

The 4G can mount 2 UAC5's... someone in my unit did it, however they did mention that was all they could fit on so it does leave you probably short ammo, and run the large risk of all your eggs in one basket located in the right torso ballistic barrel.

My personal rides went 4SP (SRM or LRM builds as wanted), 4P (2 LL with 3 ML or 7 SL), then the 4H (5ML with an LBX10). Those were the builds I found most effective for my playstyle of fast flanking and scare tactics.

[TruePoindexter]

Capt Jester, on 14 January 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Adding on to discussion, which one do you guys think would be better to get first? I finished Basic on my 4SP and am ready to move on to the next one, either a 4G or 4H. Does anybody have a 2xUAC/5 builds for the 4G, or is there just not enough tonnage?

You can do it though it requires some concessions. It's not worth it by my experience. Here's an example:

2 UAC5 2 ML STD200
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ce18add66ebf155

Looses a fair amount of speed and the third medium laser. You may be able to play around with it but the requirement of running a standard engine to have enough room for the dual UAC5's limits you. The YLW is a better mech if you want dual UAC5's as the guns are in the arm freeing up torso room.

[Capt Jester]

TruePoindexter, on 14 January 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

You can do it though it requires some concessions. It's not worth it by my experience. Here's an example:

2 UAC5 2 ML STD200
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ce18add66ebf155

Looses a fair amount of speed and the third medium laser. You may be able to play around with it but the requirement of running a standard engine to have enough room for the dual UAC5's limits you. The YLW is a better mech if you want dual UAC5's as the guns are in the arm freeing up torso room.

Oh, that's terrible. I'll give the AC/20 build a go and see how that fares for me.

[TruePoindexter]

Capt Jester, on 14 January 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Oh, that's terrible. I'll give the AC/20 build a go and see how that fares for me.

Haha well it's not terrible The DPS is quite high. The problem is that UAC5's demand a lot of ammo and you can't put two in a side torso with an XL engine. Of course you almost never want to run an XL engine on a Hunchback anyway

In the end I prefer a simple 2 AC5 3 ML build. Fast, reliable, and deals healthy damage.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 14 January 2013 - 05:59 PM.

[TygerLily]

I'd recommend the 4H. 250 Standard engine, AC/20 and 5 small lasers. Double heatsink and Endo steel updrade as well. 4G is my last Hunch to master all the variants and, next to the 4J, it's my least favorite.

[White Bear 84]

My preference is currently with the 4P or the 4SP, look at it this way..

4G with AC20/Medium lasers - Firepower ~ 35
4P with 8 Med lasers - Firepower ~ 40 (81kph mech)
4SP with 2 srm 6 and 4 med lasers - Firepower ~ 50.

If your looking to deal damage then the 4G and 4H arent exactly tops. The fire speed of the AC20 in the 4G feels sluggish and with lag is pretty bad - plus the hit box is the largest of all the builds.. ..it makes a difference i can tell you that.

4G would be good with AC2/5's for that dakka dakka freak out the enemy mech kind of play, but if your doing that might as well go for a phract really...

Edit: In a nutshell i dont really like either, but will play with my founders 4G so i can get my 4P, 4SP up to master...

Edited by White Bear 84, 14 January 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[TruePoindexter]

White Bear 84, on 14 January 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

4G would be good with AC2/5's for that dakka dakka freak out the enemy mech kind of play, but if your doing that might as well go for a phract really...

This is probably the biggest legitimate issue with the Hunchback - in many regards it is interchangeable for a Cataphract and for some people the greater armor will be worth losing some mobility.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 14 January 2013 - 06:13 PM.

[Regrets]

TruePoindexter, on 14 January 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

7 ML 2 MPL STD255
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ad12cacaa2b8fb0

Sick

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

My 4p build is downright evil, 9ML and goes 92.7kph... yes... (largest engine+speed tweak) I make raven pilots go WTF!? You can alpha twice then back down to the two arm and head laser till you cool down. Thats enough to rip off front CT armor on an atlas in two alpha's + one cool off shot.

Edited by Alekzander Smirnoff, 14 January 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[Regrets]

Why not just go like 2 LL + 7 SL/SPL? Theres no way you can fire more than a few volleys. I have tried unsuccessfully to run 5MPL on my stalker and it isn't even close to efficient.

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

Seventeen dhs, and anyway knowing when to fire at the right time instead of raking across everything means I don't fire the hump that often.

[Pastor Priest]

I run the following:

4H with an AC/20 and 5 SLAS.
4P with 2LLAS and 7SLAS.
4SP with 5MLAS and 2 SRM6.

My favorite is the 4SP. My damage is consistent with it. It also requires only minor tweaks from the stock setting so is cheap to set up. The 4H with the AC/20 is a blast, but ballistics take some getting used to. It can be my highest damage mech, though. I just redid my 4P tonight, and I like it so far. I was able to hide and seek with a Stalker and put a good hurt on him before he was swarmed. Just remember you are and escort and a flanker. Try to avoid toe to toe battles as much as possible.

[Capt Jester]

The stock 4G isn't all that bad either, after you add Endo-Steel and DHS. There's even room for some more AC/20 ammo, which you can never have too much of.

Edit: Moved some DHS from the LA to the LT.

Edited by Capt Jester, 14 January 2013 - 08:54 PM.

[Lucian Arkright]

I know that the 4H and the 4G should be interchangeable, but I just love my 4G more for some reason. I've Elited my 4G, 4H and 4SP, and love them all for different reasons.

AC20's are probably my weapon of choice in general TBH, and to run an AC20 in the 4H, I feel that you can't use the energy slots to their best potential.

I had a lot of fun running a 4H with an ER PPC and a LLAS in the Torso with no ballistics, but felt that was defeating the object that and they are a little low, which makes trying to fire over things a pain.

Currently trying an AC10 and 5 MLAS once I've finished levelling my 'Phracts.

[Yankiedoodle]

Right now I have a sniper 4H that I really like.

Rt-Gauss rifle 2xML
Arms-2xML
Head-ML
Standard 200 engine
Endosteel
Double heatsinks

A little slow but packs a mean punch.