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#21 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

View PostDayuhan, on 17 January 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Mechwarrior online is built with a four-core processor as the baseline. You can run on a dual-core but you will find your processors, regardless of their speed, nearly maxxed at 100% during game play. For dual-cores this may change once DX11 is implemented as DX11 allows much of the processing to be offloaded from the CPU to the GPU on your video card - but we do not have an ETA for DX11 yet.

So if you want to run smoothly with the game in its current state you are looking at a minimum dual-core processor system. This would require you to replace both your system board and processor (and unfortunately very likely your memory too).

If you are looking for less expensive components you may want to look in an AMD AM3+ processor solution - they have several quad and six-core processors AMD AM3+ CPUs for less than $100 on NewEgg.com. Then you would need a motherboard capable of supporting an AM3+ processor - there are many good brands I tend to favor ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI.

If you can afford it the Sabretooth R2.0 system board is a good solid board: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131877 otherwise I would suggest http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131872

For a processor try: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103996

Unfortunately, an upgrade of this magnitude would likely show up other deficiencies in your system. On mine I went from a AMD dual-core to an AMD eight-core and had to replace the power supply because my old 500W PS could not handle it when the graphics card started drawing more power. Also you will probably find that even if your memory does work with the new system board it will prove to be a bottleneck because technology-wise it is much slower that the other components of your system.

I am sure others who use Intel-based systems will give you some good pointers for going with an Intel upgrade - I find the Core i7 processors to be too expensive for my tastes.
I use a Quad @2.66 ghz

#22 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

Some mis information in this thread it seems.

Your running an old Quad core, but it should still be good enough, the key problem is your just shifting issues temporarily without doing a bit of a referb.

Budget side, only 2 things need doing, increase your RAM to 8GB, your still going to be stuck at DDR2 however, and then the GPU, the 67** series is really only mid range and never going to cut it at decent resolutions of demanding games, so you'll need to look at upgrading this, depending on budget (im guessing it's small) look at AMD 7850/7870/7950/7970, if you can afford Nvidia prices, 660TI/670 are the better options on a price/£ scale for the Nvidia family..

With a more powerful GPU it's likely you'll also need a more powerful PSU, that can supply the right number of PCIE extensions.

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2013 - 09:48 AM.


#23 smokefield

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

View PostLuke Garrad, on 17 January 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

I have tried everything. CFG's the lot. I keep my computer well matained and up to date so I know its not that. I could play at a low res but that just makes the game look blurry and kinda unplayable.



well..there is always smth that you missed. i had an issue with mwo and it took around 1 week to find what was...and i thought the same as you..that i did everything :rolleyes:

my specs are i3570k, 8gb ram, video onboard intel hd4000. i play at 1280x1024 @20fps more or less. not much and an video upgrade is coming soon..but until then i am playing :D..but you should be able to play the game at a good fps..even if you need to lower the res a bit.

also -i have suggested to another player a new configuration...with prices too...i dont remember the post but you can look for it and maybe it will help.

Edited by smokefield, 17 January 2013 - 09:37 AM.


#24 Kraven Kor

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

View PostProtoculture, on 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:


This.

I run an i7 3770k (stock since I never got around to buying a fan/cooling system) and a gtx 570, w/ 16 gb ram and have no problems at all on all maxed out settings.


More or less same here, chose not to OC despite Water Cooling system lol.

#25 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

View Postsmokefield, on 17 January 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:



well..there is always smth that you missed. i had an issue with mwo and it took around 1 week to find what was...and i thought the same as you..that i did everything :rolleyes:

my specs are i3570k, 8gb ram, video onboard intel hd4000. i play at 1280x1024 @20fps more or less. not much and an video upgrade is coming soon..but until then i am playing :D..but you should be able to play the game at a good fps..even if you need to lower the res a bit.

also -i have suggested to another player a new configuration...with prices too...i dont remember the post but you can look for it and maybe it will help.
You just gotta upgrade your GPU and its all good :D

#26 Dayuhan

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

The Gigabyte system board you selected will support i5 and i7 processors. If you intend to upgrade to this system board I would look for an i7 as it will last you longer. Quad-cores are the mainline right now, but it will not be to far in the future when more than four cores will be the new "recommended" for games.

#27 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostDayuhan, on 17 January 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

The Gigabyte system board you selected will support i5 and i7 processors. If you intend to upgrade to this system board I would look for an i7 as it will last you longer. Quad-cores are the mainline right now, but it will not be to far in the future when more than four cores will be the new "recommended" for games.


We are barely at an age where games use 4 cores efficiently, we are a long way from exceeding that.

#28 smokefield

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:41 AM

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AMD 7850/7870/7950/7970, if you can afford Nvidia prices, 660TI/670 are the better options on a price/£ scale.


actually this is wrong...the best price/performance in this range has 7850 2gb.

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You just gotta upgrade your GPU and its all good


and my power supply :rolleyes:...soon soon :D

Edited by smokefield, 17 January 2013 - 09:42 AM.


#29 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:41 AM

Just surprises me how much its gonna cost to upgrade to play a F2P. All other games I play run fine at full res. But I do love this game a lot.

#30 Zolthar

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

All your other game are prolly less demanding :rolleyes: try any other game using CryEngine and you should have the same performance issue at some level.

#31 Procobator

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostZolthar, on 17 January 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Only your CPU would need an upgrade, get an i5 3570k and the mobo and RAM that fit with it and voilà.

Bonus Upgrade : SSD hard drive, lightning fast game launch :rolleyes: (But you still have to wait for the slower folks to load...)


I run a very similiar setup to the one I quoted and I run the game fine in maxed out settings at highest resolution.

#32 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Math time. So. Radeon 7850 £128+ I5 CPU £172+ 8GB DDR3 £30 + New MOB £67 = £397.....Why did I buy a Wii U :rolleyes:

Edited by Luke Garrad, 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM.


#33 Zolthar

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Don't get lured by those stating that's your GPU the main issue, my videocard is older than your (Radeon HD5770), but my CPU is very recent, i5 3570k with 8gig of ram.

And I run at 45-50FPS using medium settings no trouble.


Upgrade your CPU for now, and wait for the next generation of GPU.

Edited by Zolthar, 17 January 2013 - 09:48 AM.


#34 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostZolthar, on 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Don't get lured by those stating that's your GPU the main issue, my videocard is older than your, but my CPU is very recent, i5 3570k.

And I run at 45-50FPS using medium settings no trouble.

Whats the Ram at?

#35 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostZolthar, on 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Don't get lured by those stating that's your GPU the main issue, my videocard is older than your (Radeon HD5770), but my CPU is very recent, i5 3570k.

And I run at 45-50FPS using medium settings no trouble.


As always it's not the age of the card, its the range.

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[color=#959595]actually this is wrong...the best price/performance in this range has 7850 2gb.[/color]


Not what i meant, my bad i will edit that part, it was supposed to say the 660TI and 670 are the best £/performance on the Nvidia side.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostTest Monkey 13, on 17 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

MWO requires an 8 Core cpu

here is a post with a sample gaming rig you should be aiming for:

http://mwomercs.com/...59#entry1588759


requires? I have a quad and run everything maxxed out with a 2 year old hd5770 thx =D

Edited by Beliall, 17 January 2013 - 09:49 AM.


#37 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

View PostLuke Garrad, on 17 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Math time. So. Radeon 7850 £128+ I5 CPU £172+ 8GB DDR3 £30 + New MOB £67 = £397.....Why did I buy a Wii U :rolleyes:


You can do slightly better than that.

http://www.scan.co.u...ache-95w-retail

http://www.scan.co.u...ie-20-(x16)-atx

http://www.scan.co.u...9-9-24-xmp-150v

http://www.scan.co.u...p-plusfree-game

£392.31 + 1 Free game.

I will warn you though, don't expect maximum settings with that 7850 the 2GB version will cost you a hair more.

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2013 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

View PostLorcan Lladd, on 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

You probably want a HD 7950; those aren't all that expensive and they should be more than sufficient to handle MWO at Medium settings in HD - most importantly, fast GPUs with lots of VRAM like these tend not to age as noticeably as other ones, which might save you a lot of cash on future upgrades.
If that one doesn't fit in your budget, check out the HD 7850 or 7870 instead.

As for the CPU, I'd recommend buying a third-gen i5 such as the 3470, especially if you're not planning on overclocking.
Otherwise, go all out on a i7 3770K, if possible.

In other words, build a new rig entirely.



I have a Radeon 7950 and I run MWO at max setting at 1920x1200 and it performs great. I also have a i5 3570K overclocked to 4.4Ghz. and 8mb RAM.

If you are running a 7950 at anything less than max settings then your CPU is holding you back.

#39 Zolthar

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:56 AM

View PostLuke Garrad, on 17 January 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

Whats the Ram at?


8Gb


And for the statement above, MWO recommend a quad core, not an octo (cant find it here, but on the 3d Mark Website that's what's indicated there).

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostColonel Pada Vinson, on 17 January 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

if you get a solid state drive and a nice video card like a radeon 7870 in example, your FPS should be fine imho.


Good advice here. The SSD will reduce load time considerably even on a mobo that only supports SATA3. The 7870 will definitely be powerful enough to run MWO.

View PostTest Monkey 13, on 17 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

MWO requires an 8 Core cpu

here is a post with a sample gaming rig you should be aiming for:

http://mwomercs.com/...59#entry1588759


You sir, need to get some help. A quad is plenty. Ive run this game on a dual core with little to no issues at 1920x1080.



The only other thing I would recommend is getting 8 gigs of RAM total. The higher end Core2Quad were and still are a decent CPU.





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