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[Roadbuster]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

3 - that's funny, I should be first on the statistics on several matches but I don't... I'm behind the ones who got kills, And match I'd killed mechs gives me more CB and xp that matches where I only assisted, even if I assisted more

Stats are based on XP, not CB.
Regarding rewards, check out for what you get rewarded. If I remember right you get 2500CB for a kill and the same for an assist. XP reward is different for assist and kill.

[Noth]

Regrets, on 16 January 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

If you lose (if you are pugging you can count on it) then you get jack. Ok, so get 4 kills and 4 assists and its not a problem. I want to see your 1 kill game where you get 80k. I don't see it.

I've done it. On losses I get anywhere between 50k and 100k. That is more than I would get on losses after repair and rearm on average. It all depends on your performance.

[Praeses]

Regrets, on 16 January 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

If you lose (if you are pugging you can count on it) then you get jack. Ok, so get 4 kills and 4 assists and its not a problem. I want to see your 1 kill game where you get 80k. I don't see it.

from what I know, you should get 75K for winning and I think there's a 5K for kill (but I'm not sure about that) but the numbers doesn't add up, on a winning match we should be winning a lot if we at least do something (spot, assist k/c, kill) but I don't see it

[Noth]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

from what I know, you should get 75K for winning and I think there's a 5K for kill (but I'm not sure about that) but the numbers doesn't add up, on a winning match we should be winning a lot if we at least do something (spot, assist k/c, kill) but I don't see it

These are the rewards:

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Assault Rewards:

* Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
* Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
* Component Destroyed = 2,500 * how many components you have destroyed
* Enemy Kill = 5,000 * how many enemies you have killed
* Enemy Kill Assist =7,500 * how many kill assists you got in the match
* Spotting Assist = 2,500 * how many spotting assists you got in the match
* Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the match

Conquest Rewards:

* Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
* Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
* Component Destroyed = 1,250 * how many components you have destroyed
* Enemy Kill = 2,500 * how many enemies you have killed
* Enemy Kill Assist = 3,750 * how many assist you got in the game
* Spotting Assist = 1,250 * how many spotting assist you got in the game
* Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the game
* Resource Bonus = 25 * how many resources you have collected

THey added reward for TAG and Narc assist this last patch. They will be adding more as time goes on.

Edited by Noth, 16 January 2013 - 07:37 AM.

[Roadbuster]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

from what I know, you should get 75K for winning and I think there's a 5K for kill (but I'm not sure about that) but the numbers doesn't add up, on a winning match we should be winning a lot if we at least do something (spot, assist k/c, kill) but I don't see it

sigh...

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Average Rewards by player match rank before any bonuses:

• 1 - 100,000+
  
• 2-5 - 75,000-100,000
  
• 6-9 - 50,000-75,000
  
• 10-13 - 35,000-50,000
  
• 14-16 - 25,000-35,000

We plan to make tuning adjustments over the coming weeks as we introduce more active rewards for non-combat aspects of the game.





We anticipate a reduction in AFK bots and a general realignment in player group tactics from base capping to enemy engagement.

Salvage remains the same.

Assault Rewards

• Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
  
• Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
  
• Component Destroyed = 2,500 * how many components you have destroyed
  
• Enemy Kill = 5,000 * how many enemies you have killed
  
• Enemy Kill Assist =7,500 * how many kill assists you got in the match
  
• Spotting Assist = 2,500 * how many spotting assists you got in the match
  
• Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the match
  
• Capture Win and Assist have been removed.

Conquest Rewards:

• Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
  
• Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
  
• Component Destroyed = 1,250 * how many components you have destroyed
  
• Enemy Kill = 2,500 * how many enemies you have killed
  
• Enemy Kill Assist = 3,725 * how many assist you got in the game
  
• Spotting Assist = 1,250 * how many spotting assist you got in the game
  
• Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the game
  
• Conquest Bonus = 25 * how many resources you have collected

Taken from the Command Chair post http://mwomercs.com/...mber-18th-2012/




EDIT: Damn Noth, you were faster...but you don't have a funny pic in your post! ^^

Edited by Roadbuster, 16 January 2013 - 07:39 AM.

[Praeses]

Noth, on 16 January 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

These are the rewards:



THey added reward for TAG and Narc assist this last patch. They will be adding more as time goes on.

Well... I thought "it could be worse" a while ago, and I think I was right :S
so winning or loosing gives you 25k... if that's true it's an "interesting" thing what they have done

How come they reward better a kill assist than a kill? that's odd

so in assault you could max out with
win : 25k
8 kill assists : 60k
8 spot assist : 20k
max components destroyed : 100k
and some damage

~225+k if you spot every enemy mech, destroyed both arms, side torse, one leg (don't kill), win the match

That's not very rewarding... you just went full rambo on the enemy team and get less than 300k (assuming a max of 75k from damage done)

[Noth]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well... I thought "it could be worse" a while ago, and I think I was right :S
so winning or loosing gives you 25k... if that's true it's an "interesting" thing what they have done

How come they reward better a kill assist than a kill? that's odd

so in assault you could max out with
win : 25k
8 kill assists : 60k
8 spot assist : 20k
max components destroyed : 100k
and some damage

~225+k if you spot every enemy mech, destroyed both arms, side torse, one leg (don't kill), win the match

That's not very rewarding... you just went full rambo on the enemy team and get less than 300k (assuming a max of 75k from damage done)

When you kill you also get a component destruction. That brings it to the same amount as an assist.

225 max, when before it was about 300 max and that would usually come with a hefty repair and rearm (unless you abused the system), that would drop it down to what we can get here or even lower. In both cases, they were rarities.

It's a good amount of cbills and since wins and losses give the same, it really dpesnds on how well you do.

The rate is good. You can't get stuff instantly and you have to play more to get the bigger and more expensive stuff. 10 days is a pretty damn good time to get one of the most expensive mechs.

[Praeses]

Noth, on 16 January 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

When you kill you also get a component destruction. That brings it to the same amount as an assist.

225 max, when before it was about 300 max and that would usually come with a hefty repair and rearm (unless you abused the system), that would drop it down to what we can get here or even lower. In both cases, they were rarities.

It's a good amount of cbills and since wins and losses give the same, it really dpesnds on how well you do.

The rate is good. You can't get stuff instantly and you have to play more to get the bigger and more expensive stuff. 10 days is a pretty damn good time to get one of the most expensive mechs.

I made more CB when R&R was in effect, it took me almost 10 days (4 hours or more a day, playing as best I could) to get 6M, I would not have much problem if I didn't have to buy a third variant just to unlock the master skill tree.

[Noth]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

I made more CB when R&R was in effect, it took me almost 10 days (4 hours or more a day, playing as best I could) to get 6M, I would not have much problem if I didn't have to buy a third variant just to unlock the master skill tree.

Under this system I could make that in 6 days. You were only making more under R&R because you were either carried, abused the R&R system, or were a top 5% player. On average you cbill earnings should be about what it was before the change.

Edited by Noth, 16 January 2013 - 08:03 AM.

[Praeses]

You do realize that it doesn't make any sense that winning or loosing you get the same right? and winning conquest by capping gives you almost nothing.... we have two modes that are team deathmatch... two modes, to do the same thing

I know that several bonuses were dropped to avoid players who just went afk... but this is getting absurd

[Praeses]

Noth, on 16 January 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

Under this system I could make that in 6 days. You were only making more under R&R because you were either carried, abused the R&R system, or were a top 5% player. On average you cbill earnings should be about what it was before the change.

I don't understand when you say
- "abused the R&R system" how could you abuse this system to gain more?
- were a top 5% player, these means you were a very good player? if it's that what this means I should be getting lots of CB but I don't
- were carried, this means you just followed someone right?, this only worked when winning/loosing bonuses were high

[Noth]

Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

I don't understand when you say
- "abused the R&R system" how could you abuse this system to gain more?
- were a top 5% player, these means you were a very good player? if it's that what this means I should be getting lots of CB but I don't
- were carried, this means you just followed someone right?, this only worked when winning/loosing bonuses were high

You could abuse the R&R system by never actually rearming since it gave you 75% free, or just flat out running builds that never needed rearmed. The top 5% are the players that could get 250k-300K in matches quite often while taking little damage. Top 5% now are probably earning less overall now. Thus they had large gains and little repair. Being carried just means that you were on teams that won and thus you got good money despite being inefficient.

Again, you aren't seeing the same numbers at the end of the match screen, but you aren't paying for repairs or ammo either. THis can lead to a psychological effect of it feeling like you are making less even if you aren't.

[Praeses]

I'll try focus on picking mechs and destroying components but I don't like to play like this... there are two team deathmatch modes and winning doesn't really matter.... this breaks the game for me, it's like a countermech-strike

edit

well, conquest does give you 75k if you win by points.... that's something

Edited by Praeses, 16 January 2013 - 08:24 AM.

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Praeses, on 16 January 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

I'll try focus on picking mechs and destroying components but I don't like to play like this... there are two team deathmatch modes and winning doesn't really matter.... this breaks the game for me, it's like a countermech-strike

I have yet to change my playstyle. I simply shoot what presents itself or what my team mates are shooting. If the opportunity presents it, I often sneak off to cap which brings at least one enemy to me that I can continue to shoot.

[Praeses]

Noth, on 16 January 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

I have yet to change my playstyle. I simply shoot what presents itself or what my team mates are shooting. If the opportunity presents it, I often sneak off to cap which brings at least one enemy to me that I can continue to shoot.

I need to complete my energy cataphract, for now I'll have to keep going rambo with my ballistic one xD