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#1 Luke Garrad

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:25 AM

So I've decided to upgrade my computer to be able to run the game at a smooth constant FPS. (I'm going to buy most parts second hand to save money) What I need to know is the best but not too expensive compoments to buy.

Current Specs

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @2.66ghz
RAM: 4GB
GPU: Radeon HD 6750 700M 1GB DDR5

Only real reason I'm upgrading is really due to this game not being able to run and my love for it. Normally in a battle I would get FPS of 19. While walking around I would get 35-30. My RES is at 1980x1020 But I don't want to turn it down as it causes the game to look blurry. (All other games run fine at High/Medium graphics)

So what is the best compoments to buy. And what should I upgrade first. (My motherboard only supports DDR2 Ram so I think maybe a new mb would be a good start)

Update: MotherBoard I'm going to get is this. http://www.ebuyer.co...ard-ga-z77-ds3h

Now what the highest priority compent to upgrade. Also will DDR2 ram work with DDR 3 until I upgrade.

Edited by Luke Garrad, 16 January 2013 - 01:32 AM.


#2 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:49 AM

Im gonna look like a desperate fool and bump my own post DX I really want some help here

Edited by Luke Garrad, 17 January 2013 - 08:50 AM.


#3 siLve00

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:50 AM

http://mwomercs.com/...es-peripherals/

#4 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostsiLve00, on 17 January 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:


I read the GPU guide but it didn't seem accurate to MWO state at the moment. MWO seems to be harder to run than crysis 2 and I can at least run crysis 2

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:57 AM

no i mean.. there you will find help if you post your thread there.. since there are ppl who are willing to help :)

#6 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:58 AM

if you get a solid state drive and a nice video card like a radeon 7870 in example, your FPS should be fine imho.

#7 Test Monkey 13

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

MWO requires an 8 Core cpu

here is a post with a sample gaming rig you should be aiming for:

http://mwomercs.com/...59#entry1588759

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

Your video card is more than enough to run this game. I would suggest getting more RAM maybe. The CPU looks fine too. You might have to do a system check with your anti virus or malware programs see if anything is happening or find out what could be slowing you down.

My system is:

AMD 1055T x6 core @ 2.8 GHz
12 GB RAM
MSI GTX 550 Ti 1 GB DDR5

http://www.tomshardw...iew,3107-7.html

According to this, your card is 1 tier below mine which isn't a big difference (unless yours is a mobility card).

#9 Jack Corvus

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

You could buy a new video card, but it wouldn't do you much good as your CPU performance will always be holding you back. So a new motherboard and CPU is where you'll have to begin.

No, you cannot use your DDR2 memory in that motherboard you have chosen. You also cannot use your old CPU. You will need a new CPU that fits into the 1155 socket type (an i3, i5, or i7). If you want to use the latest processors, they are all part of a 3000 series of number designations (example: Intel Core i5 3450, as opposed to the older Intel Core i5 2500).

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

With a new motherboard, you will need a new processor and ram. DDR2 will not work in a DDR3 board. Your old processor is socket 775, the new motherboard is socket 1155, so you'll have to get a new one of those before you can do anything, as well.

#11 Zolthar

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

Only your CPU would need an upgrade, get an i5 3570k and the mobo and RAM that fit with it and voilà.

Bonus Upgrade : SSD hard drive, lightning fast game launch :) (But you still have to wait for the slower folks to load...)

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

View PostLuke Garrad, on 16 January 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

Now what the highest priority compent to upgrade. Also will DDR2 ram work with DDR 3 until I upgrade.


No. They're physically incompatible. Some boards have both but don't bother.

#13 Lorcan Lladd

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

You probably want a HD 7950; those aren't all that expensive and they should be more than sufficient to handle MWO at Medium settings in HD - most importantly, fast GPUs with lots of VRAM like these tend not to age as noticeably as other ones, which might save you a lot of cash on future upgrades.
If that one doesn't fit in your budget, check out the HD 7850 or 7870 instead.

As for the CPU, I'd recommend buying a third-gen i5 such as the 3470, especially if you're not planning on overclocking.
Otherwise, go all out on a i7 3770K, if possible.

In other words, build a new rig entirely.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 17 January 2013 - 09:16 AM.


#14 Protoculture

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

View PostZolthar, on 17 January 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Only your CPU would need an upgrade, get an i5 3570k and the mobo and RAM that fit with it and voilà.

Bonus Upgrade : SSD hard drive, lightning fast game launch :) (But you still have to wait for the slower folks to load...)


This.

I run an i7 3770k (stock since I never got around to buying a fan/cooling system) and a gtx 570, w/ 16 gb ram and have no problems at all on all maxed out settings.

Edited by Protoculture, 17 January 2013 - 09:09 AM.


#15 Flapdrol

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:08 AM

Upgrade the cpu and the gpu will hold you back and vice versa.

So if you want a real upgrade you need a new:
Cpu
Mobo
Ram
Gpu

If you dont have the money for that try and find out what's limiting you now. If you run at really low resolution you'll get the fps you'll get on 1920x1080 with a new powerfull gpu.
You could also monitor gpu load and fps with msi afterburner, after a game you can look at the hardware monitor graph and see if the gpu load is low if fps is low, in that case you'll want a new cpu/mobo/ram

#16 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:12 AM

Thanks for the help guys, And never use Can you run it. It gives false readings.... Only reason it says minmum is because of RAM. Really hope people don't base of this. Or maybe specs PGI gave are a little too low

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Edited by Luke Garrad, 17 January 2013 - 09:14 AM.


#17 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostLorcan Lladd, on 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

You probably want a HD 7950; those aren't all that expensive and they should be more than sufficient to handle MWO at Medium settings in HD - most importantly, fast GPUs with lots of VRAM like these tend not to age as noticeably as other ones, which might save you a lot of cash on future upgrades.
If that one doesn't fit in your budget, check out the HD 7850 or 7870 instead.

As for the CPU, I'd recommend buying a third-gen i5 such as the 3470, especially if you're not planning on overclocking.
Otherwise, go all out on a i7 3770K, if possible.

In other words, build a new rig entirely.

Is this CPU ok? http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

i am running the game with onboard video at 20fps....your system is more than suited to play this game at a very good fps. You should check your other hardware...maybe you have a bad HDD, or your drivers are not updated or are corrupted, or you have a bottleneck somewhere...but don't waste money on new hardware until you check what you have.

#19 Luke Garrad

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

View Postsmokefield, on 17 January 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

i am running the game with onboard video at 20fps....your system is more than suited to play this game at a very good fps. You should check your other hardware...maybe you have a bad HDD, or your drivers are not updated or are corrupted, or you have a bottleneck somewhere...but don't waste money on new hardware until you check what you have.

I have tried everything. CFG's the lot. I keep my computer well matained and up to date so I know its not that. I could play at a low res but that just makes the game look blurry and kinda unplayable.

#20 Dayuhan

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:24 AM

Mechwarrior online is built with a four-core processor as the baseline. You can run on a dual-core but you will find your processors, regardless of their speed, nearly maxxed at 100% during game play. For dual-cores this may change once DX11 is implemented as DX11 allows much of the processing to be offloaded from the CPU to the GPU on your video card - but we do not have an ETA for DX11 yet.

So if you want to run smoothly with the game in its current state you are looking at a minimum dual-core processor system. This would require you to replace both your system board and processor (and unfortunately very likely your memory too).

If you are looking for less expensive components you may want to look in an AMD AM3+ processor solution - they have several quad and six-core processors AMD AM3+ CPUs for less than $100 on NewEgg.com. Then you would need a motherboard capable of supporting an AM3+ processor - there are many good brands I tend to favor ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI.

If you can afford it the Sabretooth R2.0 system board is a good solid board: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131877 otherwise I would suggest http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131872

For a processor try: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103996

Unfortunately, an upgrade of this magnitude would likely show up other deficiencies in your system. On mine I went from a AMD dual-core to an AMD eight-core and had to replace the power supply because my old 500W PS could not handle it when the graphics card started drawing more power. Also you will probably find that even if your memory does work with the new system board it will prove to be a bottleneck because technology-wise it is much slower that the other components of your system.

I am sure others who use Intel-based systems will give you some good pointers for going with an Intel upgrade - I find the Core i7 processors to be too expensive for my tastes.





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