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[Serapth]

Vassago Rain, on 21 January 2013 - 07:03 AM, said:

Oh, let's pretend there's no such thing as the awesome.

3 is not a boat.

Thorqemada, on 21 January 2013 - 07:07 AM, said:

A Light that gets hit and destroyed by LRM...well...that one probably plays a different game or mistakes SRM for LRM.

I simply does not happen to an at least slightly experienced pilot!

This with one exception.

I really really really wish streaks didn't trigger the incoming missile message. I have been surprised by an LRM barrage while fighting one of the hoard of Ravens currently running around. I mean, why warn about a weapon you cant counter?

[Bguk]

I use LRMs. I love them. I am also ashamed of myself as the internet told me so.

[Dirkdaring]

Protoculture, on 21 January 2013 - 07:03 AM, said:

2 days ago I watched a Commando, last guy left on my team, that had ECM and was all red crit all over and had only one medium laser left kill 2 Catapults (only 2 left on enemy team) that couldn't run away from him and had nothing but LRMs. One just kept shooting in to the ground in front of him apparently unaware that LRM has a minimum range, and finally gave up, ran OOB and died. The other one kept trying to bull charge him and finally died. It was SO sad to watch and probably had 2 people rage quit the game.

Heh that happened to me once, but I had lost my 2 MLs on my lrm boat. ECM light came at me, I just said gg and powered down.

[Lyrik]

In the first 2 weeks of ECM I didn't saw any Mechs boating LRMs.

BUT this weekend. Nearly every Stalker I saw was a LRM boat. I even died 2x until because I was like: What?, what noob is using LRM? I have AMS so it won't be so bad ... 2 salvos and 100-120 LRMs later and my Hunch was toasted xD

LRM are awesome at battlefield control. But the actual damage is not really impressive because of ECM, AMS bubble AND cover.
No really, cover is your best friend againts LRM. It's super effective

[Bguk]

Serapth, on 21 January 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

I really really really wish streaks didn't trigger the incoming missile message. I have been surprised by an LRM barrage while fighting one of the hoard of Ravens currently running around. I mean, why warn about a weapon you cant counter?

One day ams will actually be able to stop SSRMs and this message will be a viable one. Hopefully.

[Havyek]

Coles notes version of OP:

I stood in the lake of Forest Colony and 4 LRM boats shot me.

Now I sad panda.

[Taizan]

I love the mech pilots who think they are completely immune to LRMs because of ECM. From that first gentle touch with my acquisition gear to the full impact of my crushing cascade. I really do have much love for them, it is mesmerizing to see my love fly to them, embrace and engulf them in fiery fireworks of passion.

Especially lights, when they try to evade my love messages with their speed, but then instead of running into cover, they rather turn their beautiful back side to my dozens of amorous touches, reaching out for them, bundling together for an ecstatic finale.

Edited by Taizan, 21 January 2013 - 07:20 AM.

[4b4dd0n]

MrNemo, on 21 January 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

Seriously why is this allowed? The hard core fans are all pretty much TT gamers and novel fans. No one wants light mechs blown up in one volley from some clown in a stalker throwing up 70 missiles per trigger pull. Especially as LRM's have been poorly implemented.

I love to kill ******* lag shield lights with ecm with one volley Use your hate and build an lrm boat

[Vassago Rain]

Taizan, on 21 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

I love the mech pilots who think they are completely immune to LRMs because of ECM. From that first gentle touch with my acquisition gear to the full impact of my crushing cascade. I really do have much love for them, it is mesmerizing to see my love fly to them, embrace and engulf them in fiery fireworks of passion.

Especially lights, when they try to evade my love messages with their speed, but then instead of running into cover, they rather turn their beautiful back side to my dozens of amorous touches, reaching out for them, bundling together for an ecstatic finale.

Sounds sexual.

[Protoculture]

Taizan, on 21 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

I love the mech pilots who think they are completely immune to LRMs because of ECM. From that first gentle touch with my acquisition gear to the full impact of my crushing cascade. I really do have much love for them, it is mesmerizing to see my love fly to them, embrace and engulf them in fiery fireworks of passion.

Especially lights, when they try to evade my love messages with their speed, but then instead of running into cover, they rather turn their beautiful back side to my dozens of amorous touches, reaching out for them, bundling together for an ecstatic finale.

Well, I need another shower, thanks for 50 Shades of Mechwarrior

[Serapth]

Bguk, on 21 January 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

One day ams will actually be able to stop SSRMs and this message will be a viable one. Hopefully.

See, if they made AMS counter streaks, we could have neutered the streak cat with a game mechanic that wasn't horrifically OPed.

I love the idea of the ECM, I just hate the implementation. If it was self only, or only worked within a 180m radius, that would be a good addition to the game, that actually made sense to take for the drawbacks.

But, that's a different subject for a different thread, that we have already had far too many times.

Taizan, on 21 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

I love the mech pilots who think they are completely immune to LRMs because of ECM. From that first gentle touch with my acquisition gear to the full impact of my crushing cascade. I really do have much love for them, it is mesmerizing to see my love fly to them, embrace and engulf them in fiery fireworks of passion.

Especially lights, when they try to evade my love messages with their speed, but then instead of running into cover, they rather turn their beautiful back side to my dozens of amorous touches, reaching out for them, bundling together for an ecstatic finale.

I've only run a few TAG builds but it certainly didnt go like that for me. It was tag a mech, wait 4 or 5 seconds for my reticle to indicate a target, if of course the mech stayed tagged, then fire. So unless the mech was running in a straight line, or standing still, self taging was really rather useless. Then of course there are the all too common non-LOS situations, like the Ridge line on the winter map, or the Cauldron on Caustic, where tag is effectively useless.

[MiG77]

Serapth, on 21 January 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

See, if they made AMS counter streaks, we could have neutered the streak cat with a game mechanic that wasn't horrifically OPed.

I love the idea of the ECM, I just hate the implementation. If it was self only, or only worked within a 180m radius, that would be a good addition to the game, that actually made sense to take for the drawbacks.

+1

AMS would have been perfect counter for SSRM's. Mechs that can mount 2 of them could be almost immune to them even if boated.

Edited by MiG77, 21 January 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[Ewigan]

I do like it when there is an D-DC standing far away. laughing under his ECM bubble.

then either you try to get in close and get him with your TAG
OR
(and that is even funnier but requries a lot more rockets)
you dumbfire them in his direction.
they WILL hit around the spot your crosshair told them to. if he isn't running he will be rained upon

[Bguk]

Serapth, on 21 January 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

I've only run a few TAG builds but it certainly didnt go like that for me. It was tag a mech, wait 4 or 5 seconds for my reticle to indicate a target, if of course the mech stayed tagged, then fire. So unless the mech was running in a straight line, or standing still, self taging was really rather useless. Then of course there are the all too common non-LOS situations, like the Ridge line on the winter map, or the Cauldron on Caustic, where tag is effectively useless.

Of course it's useless at first when you face a decent pilot or perceived terrain inefficiency. Then one needs to adjust to their surroundings making self tagging a wonderful thing. Hate the ridge? Flank. The enemy is not moving from the ridge? Have patience and some eventually will. Facing a good pilot? Too many adjustments to list on that one. Movement is key.

Edited by Bguk, 21 January 2013 - 07:36 AM.

[BritishJesus]

Because the only play style that should be allowed is the OP's? There's several things that affect how effective LRM's are. I'm sorry you don't know how to take advantage of cover, AMS, and ECM. LRM's are not that over powered if you know what you're doing.

[Taizan]

Serapth, on 21 January 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

I've only run a few TAG builds but it certainly didnt go like that for me. It was tag a mech, wait 4 or 5 seconds for my reticle to indicate a target, if of course the mech stayed tagged, then fire. So unless the mech was running in a straight line, or standing still, self taging was really rather useless.

It is indeed impertinent to wait for the right moment to go forwards in your relationship. When you see that your significant other is distracted or uncertain, it is up to you to prove him very precisely that you are willing to show commitment in achieving your final goal.

Edited by Taizan, 21 January 2013 - 07:37 AM.

[SpiralRazor]

Taizan, on 21 January 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

I love the mech pilots who think they are completely immune to LRMs because of ECM. From that first gentle touch with my acquisition gear to the full impact of my crushing cascade. I really do have much love for them, it is mesmerizing to see my love fly to them, embrace and engulf them in fiery fireworks of passion.

Especially lights, when they try to evade my love messages with their speed, but then instead of running into cover, they rather turn their beautiful back side to my dozens of amorous touches, reaching out for them, bundling together for an ecstatic finale.

wtf are you going on about?



OP, you are fail.


The end.

[Ilwrath]

MrNemo, on 21 January 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

Seriously why is this allowed? The hard core fans are all pretty much TT gamers and novel fans. No one wants light mechs blown up in one volley from some clown in a stalker throwing up 70 missiles per trigger pull.

70 missiles? That is my stalker baby! I also use Tag and I love to blow up the little crap-mechs. Nothing is better really. It fills me with joy. Thanks a lot for complaining, it make it so much better. Tagging an EMC raven and then blowing it up is wonderful.

I sometimes get sick of this game with all its faults and bugs and few maps and so on but then I think about blowing up lights with my missile spam and I just cannot help myself, I have to start up the game and do it again.

Also everybody, follow this: http://mwomercs.com/...per-easy-to-do/

With that setup you can use always-on tag and its so good for both marking lights for your missile boats and also let you see where their hitbox is before applying lasers.

Remember to ALWAYS tag for your missile-boats. Those lights have do die.

Edited by Ilwrath, 21 January 2013 - 07:49 AM.

[Serapth]

Bguk, on 21 January 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

Of course it's useless at first when you face a decent pilot or perceived terrain inefficiency. Then one needs to adjust to their surroundings making self tagging a wonderful thing. Hate the ridge? Flank. The enemy is not moving from the ridge? Have patience and some eventually will. Facing a good pilot? Too many adjustments to list on that one. Movement is key.

See, those are the proper strategies to playing the ridge, but LRMs aren't a good fit to those strategies. If you are flaking without the cover of an ECM, you are fodder for any LRMs they are carrying. The most effective maneuvers in a ridge or canyon fight are to flank, shoot and fade. In that case, any weapon but the LRM are more effective in this situation because of the instant fire nature. If you flank and leave yourself exposed while tagging, you are going to get slaughtered by the oppositions snipers and in the case you arent in an ECM bubble, their return LRM fire.

When I play an LRM mech and get stuck with an enemy in under an ECM shield, unless for some reason I am given all the time in the world, my LRMs are often relegated to a dumbfire suppressing weapon, which is a horrible use of tonneage.

Now in premade matches where you can have a tag spotter or even just reliable target locks, LRMs become a hell of a lot more useful. In PUG matches, they are a gigantic gamble, and one you will generally lose.

Now, in by D-DC build, I will still run LRMs ( like 25 of them only ), but thats a mech that has its own ecm bubble so the problems dont affect it as heavily. Plus, its 100 tons, so if the missiles become in effective, ive still got a Guass or AC20 and a couple LL to back me up.

[Agent of Change]

Taizan, on 21 January 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

It is indeed impertinent to wait for the right moment to go forwards in your relationship. When you see that your significant other is distracted or uncertain, it is up to you to prove him very precisely that you are willing to show commitment in achieving your final goal.

I am becoming more and more a fan of showing shy DDC's surprise love with my affection from afar platform. Often, like yourself, I will gently caress them with my Cupid's laser pointer, but sometimes they stand silently on a hill secure that their ECM hides their delicate selves from the prying eyes of would be admirers I will send them deliveries guided only by the purity of my intent (and hey no warning either).

Silly ECM mechs thinking they can hide from our boundless affections.

Also evaporating light mechs in a single volley is a as hilariously satisfying as it is rare.