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[Havelock Vetinari]

Why was the Trebuchet chosen as the next medium mech and the Jagermech as the next heavy mech to be implemented?
We already got two 50 tons mechs (Centurion/Hunchback) and one 65 tons mech (Catapult), but no 55 tons mech and no 75 tons mech.

Why not filling up the weight "gaps" first?

[MonkeyCheese]

They will get around to it eventually.

[Solis Obscuri]

Fast fire support was a medium role that hadn't been filled yet, direct-fire support was a heavy role that hadn't been filled yet.

Or because the devs just thought they looked neat, either way I always look forward to new 'mechs on the battlefield.

[Budor]

This is the thread you are looking for http://mwomercs.com/...-announcements/

[Davers]

Because the only non 50 ton medium they announced is already in game? They are putting them out (sorta) in the order announced. Trebuchet-Jaegermech-Highlander-Flea-Blackjack-Orion-?

[Padic]

I've found that the weight of a mech does relatively little to define it, at least, for mechs within the same weight class. The available hard points and stock engine size are far more distinguishing.

I assume the Trebuchet and the Jagermech were chosen because they're about the right weight, have relatively unique weapon systems, are visually distinguished from the rest of the current line up and are "big names".

[Kaijin]

If jump jets weren't in a nerf state, where only the spider can use them effectively, then I would have been hoping for a jump-capable medium and a jump-capable assault. But given the jets current state, anything new will do.

[New Breed]

One of you BT people tell me the answer to the following

what upcoming mech has a lot of Ballistic slots? I don't really count the jager. It's too light for my liking.

[Davers]

Pretty much the no count Jaeger. Orion has a similar loadout as the Atlas. Treb is lasers and missiles. Blackjack has ballistics, but is 30 tons lighter then Jaeger. Highlander might have a few Ballistics, but I think they are arm mounted. Flea has ballistics too, but at 20 tons...

[Tennex]

i think they just get all the iconic ones first

[Stormwolf]

Ghost Bear, on 21 January 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

One of you BT people tell me the answer to the following

what upcoming mech has a lot of Ballistic slots? I don't really count the jager. It's too light for my liking.

The Blackjack, but that one is even lighter then the Jagermech

[Sprouticus]

There is also a 70 ton Jagermech variant they could use.

The JM7-D is from mechcommander, and thus technically could be from any time period post 3039. BTWiki doesnt have a date, so Im assuming there is none.

[Cache]

Havelock Vetinari, on 21 January 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Why was the Trebuchet chosen as the next medium mech and the Jagermech as the next heavy mech to be implemented?
We already got two 50 tons mechs (Centurion/Hunchback) and one 65 tons mech (Catapult), but no 55 tons mech and no 75 tons mech.

Why not filling up the weight "gaps" first?

1) The Orion is 75 tons.

2) They'll get to the 55-tonners when they get to them. Due to the Unseen issues, all we're likely to get is missile boats anyway (Dervish and possibly Kintaro).

[Vaneshi SnowCrash]

Havelock Vetinari, on 21 January 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Why not filling up the weight "gaps" first?

Because the game doesn't have any weight gaps. In fact the matchmaker (as it currently stands) doesn't understand chassis differences either only: Light, Medium, Heavy, Assault, which is already a bit of a problem for Assault's (and Lights too really)..

You end up with 5 Stalkers and an Awesome on your team (because why not). They get 6 Atlas's. They're all D-DC's. That's a very big ask for the Stalkers & Awesome to deal with; they're out tonne'd, out armoured and potentially down on damage if they're SSRM Stalkers. It'd be the same problem with a 50ton medium facing off against a 55ton one.

The matchmaker needs further work before the 'weight gaps' get filled IMHO.

[Roughneck45]

Solis Obscuri, on 21 January 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

direct-fire support was a heavy role that hadn't been filled yet.

Cataphract and K2? Pretty sure they fill the direct fire role.

[Kraven Kor]

Sadly, most of the 55-ton mechs, it seems, are unseen anywho.

Same with 75 tonners.

[Kaijin]

Stormwolf, on 21 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

The Blackjack, but that one is even lighter then the Jagermech

Lighter, but it has jump jets, which would be awesome if JJ didn't suck.

[Kraven Kor]

Ghost Bear, on 21 January 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

One of you BT people tell me the answer to the following

what upcoming mech has a lot of Ballistic slots? I don't really count the jager. It's too light for my liking.

Highlander does, I think.

But "lots of ballistic slots" are going to be reserved for Mauler, Annihilator, and Banshee; looking at assault mechs.

[Cache]

Ghost Bear, on 21 January 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

what upcoming mech has a lot of Ballistic slots? I don't really count the jager. It's too light for my liking.

Blackjack, Jagermech, and Highlander. There aren't any assaults in this era that carry multiple ballistics. I suppose you could count the Victor 9A1 with two leg-mounted MGs plus the AC/20.

[Bullseye69]

Trebuchet is a long range fire support mech at least in canon it is, but the hunchback 4 sp and j can do long range fire support with LRM also. Don't really understand that choose myself. We will be getting a Blackjack 45 ton which is know for it auto cannon and laser loadouts. The jagermechs is mostly know as a auto cannon varient unlike the rifleman that can't be used. The k varient of the catapult can mount dual auto cannons or gauss don't really understand that choose either. We will be getting the Orion so that a 75 ton. I just really wonder why the date why not blackjack before trebuchet or orion before jagermech, Now here is the 54 million dollar question with the lag and net code issue why would you have a 20 ton Flea since the issue have still not been fixed.

The only one i agree with is assault Highlander not the same tonnage as other and kind of a jack of all trades mech and it jumps I know people are not happy about jumpjets on heavier mechs maybe they will fix it and I hope they give it a damage reduction on landing since that mech was redesigned to minimize Death from Above.