Thorn Hallis, on 23 January 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:
No, this what happens when people really don't use the thing between their shoulders (and thats not directed specificly to you). It's understandable when people that bought a founders pack are disapointed because MWO didn't went the way they wanted it to go. But it lets them look pretty silly when they start to call the developers "idiots" because of it. Noone forced anyone to spend money on the game.
I think the frequently deployed "noone forced you" jibe is really cheap. Of course they didn't but whilst the founders deal was open they did lay out a specific roadmap on the CB forum that touted features and dates that have not transpired.
On a value to gameplay scale - I've no problems really other than the bought mechs that ECM has made obsolete.
On a feature list though - this is not the game that was advertised and nor will it be that game until late into 2013.
It's pointless trying to conduct the conversation along right/wrong lines because value is entirely subjective. I don't feel like I've really got it but continue to play and suggest changes etc regardless. I can perfectly understand why some people are very pissed off though. That money might have represented a greater investment to them. Additionally if someone forms the opinion that PGI have blundered the game to date that's also their own lookout and thankfully something that they're able to express here in the main.
Apnu, on 23 January 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:
I need to requote this for truth.
I bought the founders pack, but I took the time to read about the road map and see where the game is going. I feel that at no time did PGI deceive me or disappoint me. I knew exactly what I was getting into because I read what PGI has stated about the direction of the game. They have never wavered from that road map, and they always stated that things can and do change in the design phase.
Whilst much of the above is subjective, this really isn't. If you had read the Jul/Aug roadmap then you'd currently be playing the first iteration of house-based, lobby-tastic, lance-forming Community Warfare in glorious DX11. This thread indicates that such key features are now likely to complete "during 2013". Make of that what you will.
I'm very glad you see value though. So do I of a different shape. But you cannot and should not tell another person that their conclusions are wrong simply because you bought founders for different reasons.
I'll add again - in the hope of a conversation that transcends "f off and play something else then you ****" - that I'm not defending anyone who threatens staff members. That's clearly balls. I was responding in the main to the apparent lack of understanding from Bryan about why so many people are so negative. Complaints follow similar themes each time they come up and make the underlying reasons for mistrust starkly obvious.