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#41 BunnyWabbit

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:01 PM

Are they going to wipe mech xp also? aka the pilot tree unlocks?

#42 Zylo

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

Stats might be a bit more useful if they were shown for each mech chassis.

I know some players hate the World of Tanks examples but that stat system applied to mechs would at least be more useful than the current stat system.

#43 Sir Wulfrick

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

I'm pretty ambivalent about a stats wipe. K/D is meaningless to me. I consider W/L to be far more significant. I suppose as long as we're allowed to keep our chassis and equipment then a stats wipe would do little harm to those who care more for team performance over a personal and irrelevant statistic.

On the subject of statistics, I'd love to see very in-depth analysis of personal and when appropriate team statistics available to players. I'd love to be abel to quantitatively determine where my weak areas are both in terms of weapons and chassis and track my personal progress over time.

Not quite sure what "achievements" the dev team are bringing in - are they listed in a post somewhere? If we're talking "achievements" such as Steam games have, I'd have to question the point. So I've got 500 kills. So what? How does that benefit me if, for example, my team never wins a match?

*shrug* fine for those that like that sort of thing I suppose, but I'd be dissapointed if some sort of achievement system offered incentives for selfishness over combined team performance.

Edited by Sir Wulfrick, 22 January 2013 - 03:14 PM.


#44 ElmoWithAGun

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

They should just remove stats altogether.

#45 Screech

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

Hopefully means they are doing a full stat re-work as well. I really would like stats that can be segregated by mech type and variant. Also a rolling average would be nice which tracked only previous 7 days to give you an idea how your recent play has been. Maybe also a 8 man and pug only stats filter would be interesting.

#46 Eboli

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

I don't mind if a stat wipe occurs. As a 700+ game 100% pugger I have watched my k/d to indicate that I am getting better at the game. By wiping my stats all I know is that they will look better in the long run as my initial learning curve no longer applies. This will happen to all good players anyway

After implementing a number of changes and then doing a stat wipe all players are then put on a level pegging.

Honestly I would love to see a lot more useful stats being shown to indicate the results of my gameplay. Achievements will be an interesting implementation but I do have concerns that this will bring about an increased selfish attitude of some players which could also encourage the use of hacks.

People have different need for stats and in the end I think that they create better value for the game being there than not.

Cheers!
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#47 FrostPaw

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

I'm not too bothered about losing my stats.

I do have a warm smug glow within me when thinking about certain types of players putting such value in padding/maintaining them though.

#48 Ashnod

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Really pissed off about the stat wipe sigh

#49 IceSerpent

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

View PostAshnod, on 22 January 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

Really pissed off about the stat wipe sigh


Why? Stats are not used for anything at the moment - they can technically wipe them every morning and most folks won't even notice.

#50 TopDawg

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:51 PM

View PostIceSerpent, on 22 January 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:


Why? Stats are not used for anything at the moment - they can technically wipe them every morning and most folks won't even notice.

Stats are almost never used for anything ever, but it doesn't stop every game ever from having them. People like to be able to reflect on their time spent in game.

How does someone liking their stats affect anyone else that doesn't? If people don't like stats or don't care, why are they looking look at them?

#51 HC Harlequin

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

Since people are bringing this up again I dug up a previous Stats thread

http://mwomercs.com/...__fromsearch__1

#52 Viper69

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

View PostDV McKenna, on 22 January 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:


Elo makes no use of your stats.


I thought the point of ELO was to use your stats to make fair match ups, if not what is it for?

#53 TruePoindexter

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:54 PM

View PostUraniumOverdose, on 22 January 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

According to the newest "Ask the Devs" it looks like they are planning a stat (kills, not cbills) wipe when "achievements" are rolled out. I think this is great.
If we are gonna have stats, the teams that sync drop pug stomp shouldn't be allowed to benefit when it comes to achievements for being tools.


More or less yes - it's necessary since I know there are a bunch of people out there who farmed when one or another part of the game was broken.

Personally I kind of wish that the wipe would come with rating based matchmaking as well. Though at least that will even itself out pretty quick.

#54 Broceratops

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

meh

i'm still out ahead because i've mastered all the **** mechs like the 3C and 5K so EAT IT SUCKERS

Edited by Broceratops, 22 January 2013 - 04:55 PM.


#55 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostUraniumOverdose, on 22 January 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

You don't get annoyed by the douche bags that post a screen shot of their ridiculously inflated pug stomp stats in their signature?


Real men Solo-Stomp. Teammates are overrated.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

As an owner of a consistently 8+ ratio that I have guarded with moderate jealousy, I would be a little unhappy to lose it but at the same time I'm one of the people who wants to push for a reset due to the game's volatile nature throughout Open Beta. no complaints.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

View PostViper69, on 22 January 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

I thought the point of ELO was to use your stats to make fair match ups, if not what is it for?


It's for making you to improve your google-fu and read up on the subject :D

#58 Lord Ikka

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

As long as its just stats and not xp/Mechs I'm down with it.

#59 Texas Merc

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

Hopefully the guys worried about stats in PUG TS servers will hop into 8 man PUGs on the TS servers and fill up the 8 man que.

The stats are going to be reset anyway so why not have fun.

Remember in CB when all the channels had 8 ppl in them?

#60 White Bear 84

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostDeamhan, on 22 January 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

Once the DC exploit is dealt with
Once hit boxes on lights are dealt with
Once net code is fixed
Once the modules they say will put ECM into check are introduced
Once match making is reworked to prevent sync dropping

Then by all means do the reset.

I don't do any of the above and I have only gotten better at the game since I first started playing. This will only hurt those who took advantage of every imbalance and bug and help those who haven't. I welcome it.


How will a stat reset hurt or help anyone? :D





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