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[Stormwolf]

So, given the discussions about Clan players and game balance I decided to create this thread,

Many people feel that Clanners upholding honorrules would balance the, in some cases even grant the IS players advantage.

I'm personally more a honor level 2 kind of guy, Word of Blake gets the honor level 4 treatment,

So what's it gonna be?

[Adridos]

Dont get upset about all those "shiny" mechs, dont play Clans and you can fight as dirty as you want!

[Stormwolf]

adridos, on 05 November 2011 - 03:59 AM, said:

Dont get upset about all those "shiny" mechs, dont play Clans and you can fight as dirty as you want!

Like I'd be expecting anything else

[Adridos]

You are one of Clans, you have to stick to the rules.

[Adridos]

Oh and try to explain your pretty honor mechanics to thoe 12 year olds, that do not have any idea, what it takes to get something like Timber Wolf.

Edited by adridos, 05 November 2011 - 04:09 AM.

[Bhudda]

I thought ther was not going to be any Clans at first,so what is the deal.

[Stormwolf]

adridos, on 05 November 2011 - 04:07 AM, said:

Oh and try to explain your pretty honor mechanics to thoe 12 year olds, that do not have any idea, what it takes to get something like Timber Wolf.

Not yet, I want to see how the poll turns out in the next couple of hours.

[Bhudda]

allthou I plan on running a Merc,I plan on fallowing the guide lines of the Knights of the Inner Sphere.

[Bhudda]

so honor will play a magor part for me.

[Stormwolf]

Bhudda, on 05 November 2011 - 04:10 AM, said:

I thought ther was not going to be any Clans at first,so what is the deal.

The game setting was changed to start in 3048 instead of 3015.

[Stormwolf]

I hope that people are not voting honor level 2 because I voted it.

Edited by stormwolf, 05 November 2011 - 05:26 AM.

[Jack Gallows]

There won't be any Clans at launch, but we'll see it happen not too long after.

Also, as for the Honor level....well, over time you guys might have to modify it just like what happened with the actual Invasion. So, don't think it'd really be a set number.

[Stormwolf]

Jack Gallows, on 05 November 2011 - 05:27 AM, said:

There won't be any Clans at launch, but we'll see it happen not too long after.

Also, as for the Honor level....well, over time you guys might have to modify it just like what happened with the actual Invasion. So, don't think it'd really be a set number.

Some people are more conservative then others. I bet that there's plenty of staunch Jade Falcons who'll go for honor level 1

[Jack Gallows]

stormwolf, on 05 November 2011 - 05:29 AM, said:

Some people are more conservative then others. I bet that there's plenty of staunch Jade Falcons who'll go for honor level 1

Oh, I know. But I meant as the game is released and time drags on and no one else is adhering to any kind of honor level, less it's on a point by point basis. One enemy might be honorable enough to answer Batchall and fight with Zellbrigen, but there's going to be sooo many IS that won't.

It needs to be flexible, I don't want to "punish" Clan players with an actual game restriction they can't abandon.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 05 November 2011 - 05:42 AM.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Since its 3049, I would be using Level 1 Honour Rules.
My Clan would be the Smoke Jaguars fighting against the Draconis Combine, and, as such, can expect similar honour from my opponents, at least initially.

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Word of Blake gets the honor level 4 treatment

Non-issue.
Wobbies don't get to exist yet.

Edited by Alizabeth Aijou, 05 November 2011 - 05:48 AM.

[Amechwarrior]

That also depends on the timeline of the Falcons. By Coventry I think they took it quite liberally and later shucked it all when dealing with IS/Clan combat. I think after the loss of the Falcon Guards, most units would be very considerate to lvl2.

[Stormwolf]

Amechwarrior, on 05 November 2011 - 05:45 AM, said:

That also depends on the timeline of the Falcons. By Coventry I think they took it quite liberally and later shucked it all when dealing with IS/Clan combat. I think after the loss of the Falcon Guards, most units would be very considerate to lvl2.

Likely, it's no surprise that many Clans told their warriors that they can refuse challenges since there'll be fowl play involved.
But I'd most definately adhere to level 1 or 2 rules when fighting against 3025 tech mechs.

Edited by stormwolf, 05 November 2011 - 05:50 AM.

[Barbaric Soul]

I play with absolutely no honor. I will do every single dirty little trick I can to win. I will, in no particular order-

1) leg a mech
2) target a mechs weapons
3) use heat to target weapons to over-heat and shut down a enemy mech
4) shoot a mech that is shut down
5) shoot a mech that is knocked down
6) be part of a group of larger mechs ganging up on a single smaller mech
7) Strip and leg a mech and leave it, forcing that mechs teamates to play a "man down"
8) chain fire weapons to prevent my target from being able to get reticle on me and shoot me
9) do whatever it takes to win the fight

I play the role of a mercenary. There is no honor in being a mercenary. It's all about the money and winning.

[Amechwarrior]

In terms of Clan Honor, really only rule 6 breaks the Honor code. Everything else is fine, or even encouraged as thinking outside the box in combat but technically legal. Rule 7 only means something in PC games where the player could respawn.

[flessar]

stormwolf, on 05 November 2011 - 05:50 AM, said:

Likely, it's no surprise that many Clans told their warriors that they can refuse challenges since there'll be fowl play involved.
But I'd most definately adhere to level 1 or 2 rules when fighting against 3025 tech mechs.

Ill accept your challenge, and then procede to curb stomp you while your fellows watch, or ill dream im doing that as im throttling away from combat at full speed. but we can skip that detail