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[Franchi]

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  We understand players may be concerned about matchmaking and further segmenting the player base. So are we. Before going live with a 3rd person option, we plan to investigate and solve any potential issues further fragmentation may cause.

What that means is when they realize they don't have the player base for split ques they will throw us all in together.

[Rejarial Galatan]

except <enter sarcasm> if we dont want it, we dont have to play against it.

we all know what their word means...

[0X2A]

Franchi, on 21 March 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

What that means is when they realize they don't have the player base for split ques they will throw us all in together.

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Players will never be forced to use or play against other players using 3rd person.

All ur MC r belong 2 me

[Rejarial Galatan]

until they see that they cannot implement it separately and force us all to mingle, which drives the last dregs of us who had any remaining faith in the game away, which turns it into a slicker version of PopTart4 err Mechwarrior 4.

[Billygoat]

Bryan Ekman, on 21 March 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

Players will never be forced to use or play against other players using 3rd person.

This rings so hollow I think the termites must've been at it. It has roughly the same amount of credibility as

http://mwomercs.com/...is-when-needed/

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MechWarrior Online is being designed to put you the player in the seat of the pilot. It is 100% first person view only. Being the pilot is one of our key design pillars and 3rd person breaks that pillar on multiple levels as seen in many of the other 3rd Person discussions.

We will investigate 3rd person in the far off distance for special game settings, but this is very far off in the distance.

While we appreciate those who enjoy 3rd person, MWO will be 1st person out of the gate and in the near future.

-Paul
Lead Designer

Well boys, who knew the very far off distance was only a few months away? And that by "special game settings" Paul actually meant "everything" and "key design pillar" actually means "something we thought was cool until XxSGT.SniperWolf97xX told us on twitter that it was too hard".

Man, were we ever chumps not to see it!

[Rejarial Galatan]

Billygoat, on 21 March 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:

This rings so hollow I think the termites must've been at it. It has roughly the same amount of credibility as

http://mwomercs.com/...is-when-needed/



Well boys, who knew the very far off distance was only a few months away? And that by "special game settings" Paul actually meant "everything" and "key design pillar" actually means "something we thought was cool until XxSGT.SniperWolf97xX told us on twitter that it was too hard".

Man, were we ever chumps not to see it!

<sigh> too true

[Adrienne Vorton]

i think i get it... because arma III has a 3rd person now, that probably means 3rd person is realistic and thus viable for a simulation feel of MWO...

[roguetrdr]

Adrienne Vorton, on 22 March 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

i think i get it... because arma III has a 3rd person now, that probably means 3rd person is realistic and thus viable for a simulation feel of MWO...

Ah ARMA2 had 3rd person...

[Psikez]

Edited by Psikez, 22 March 2013 - 12:33 AM.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

So 93% of the community according to the poll either DO NOT WANT or just couldn't give a rats *** about if 3rd person ever existed.


Good sign that they should KEEP this can of worms lid sealed, tightly.

[Krigherren]

No, just.. no. Unless it's made available only in the Training Grounds and when spectating another player. It can definitely be an advantage, third person > first person. It became readily apparent in the previous MechWarrior games (MechWarrior 4, etc.) that using third person would sort of defeat the point of having a limited radar cone and having to rely on your eyeballs, considering you could just see if a Mech happened to have his AC/20 up your rear before he fired a shot off, as opposed to not knowing until it was too late.

It'd certainly be neat for replays and such as said before, but as for actual gameplay, it'd break some of the key elements of combat tactics. (IMO)

[Machete Jeddie]

This is a terrible idea!

[Colonel Kernal]

I really don't want this in this game at all. It will just make first person players have the short end of the stick, because they will play at a disadvantage. even if the two are sperated.

[DocBach]

This pretty clearly shows that the majority of players still want 3rd person in the game -- Its only the vocal forum minorities who care.

[Rovertoo]

It seems to me that 3rd person is a generally rejected idea so far. GOOD!

[ArmandTulsen]

I actually will quit this game, if they implement 3rd person view.

There are plenty of games out there to enjoy.

[Volume]

Not sure if I'd go as so far as to say it would "break the game" but it is most certainly not a good idea.

Edited by Volume, 23 March 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[Malora Sidewinder]

i don't see the problem overall, so long as the view is balanced.

That said, i'd really like 3rd person view to have no HUD to make it especially fair, even if they CAN see over walls/around corners.

[MarkViper]

Mechwarrior is supposed to be a first person simulation style game, always has been, that is what the franchise is. If you want to play some crappy arcade style third person abomination, go play Mech assault. True mechwarrior games have always been about realism and anyone who thinks third person is a good idea for it is most likely brand new to the battletech universe. Certain things in specific franchises are set in stone by the originals. You don't see them suddenly making a third person view in Halo or COD because that is not what the game is supposed to be. This is an in cockpit, simulator game. Always has been since the 90's.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

At this point I almost hope they do it, just so I can watch PGI go down in flames.