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[ChaosAvenger0]

Kylere, on 25 January 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

People that quit just because they are "sure" their team is going to lose are the worst kind of players.

Yes!

Last night there was an issue with a few 'cannot name shame' players routinely disconnecting and the rumour was that they were doing it whenever they didn't successfully sync drop with the rest of their friends.

I voted 'Other'. As a full time PUGer, part time winner I love this game and I can't help coming back for more punishment. Getting steam rolled sucks and I rage in silence at the worst team mates and my own stupid blunders. However I've been a part of some matches that, win or lose, felt absolutely epic and that makes it all good for me.

[Cranky Poed]

When i get on i usually play 4 to 12 rounds depending on whether i i get Streaked to death several times in a row.

[mekabuser]

THanks for replies gents . Its funny, MOST of your replies I can relate to as there is no denying I have quite alot of fun playing the game..
I guess this would be something to revisit after phase 3 drops but I think it illustrates a huge problem for the new player... {NOW}

You gotta be a very special kinda person to stumble across this game, try it, and play it solo.. I wonder if there is an age demographic breakdown for pug/teamspeak players, but I <think> the average person , unless they get the bug, the giant robot bug, is going to be put off by the game..

I have to guess by the amount of utter incompetence You see on the battlefield, that mech combat is not easy... Combining that with running solo and you have a world of hurt..
Now,, if phase three throws ALL the noobs in the same pool.. when then ,, problem solved... THeir battles , will be battles of epic fail, but eventually the mechs will blow up and they will get the visceral awesome that IS mech combat.

problem is that until phase three happens, mwo's sluice box is at too steep an angle and all that gold<new players> is just getting washed out the other end.
something for the devs to consider as the months drag by..

ALso, to illustrate just exactly what the pug experience IS for their "potential" customers. i would HIGHLY>.. ...
HIGHLY... reccommend they smurf and play pug/.. Just to see.
Cause while half voted "other" the other half described what it took them to reach a breaking point... And they are mostly fans of the game..

[ZealotTheFallen]

when i pug i have a 57% chance of being on the winning side. loosing doesn't frustrate me, its the team running around like fools, not even taking 15 seconds to respond to two questions i ask everytime i drop solo is there anyone in a team? is anyone using a communication program? no means life will be short but i make it fun and exciting pugdrops 1 session 22 wins 21 losses best actually team record with communication 42 straight wins before we mentally strayed but can't win them all

[Kiiyor]

You should add an option for 'infinite'.

I never, ever expect to win in a pug. I make my own goals, like "take at least one of these ***** with me!"

Seriously. Just accept the fact that you are likely to lose more often than not in a pug, and you'll enjoy yourself far more.

It's like seeing people caught in the rain and miserable. Once you just accept the fact that you're cold and wet, it's so much easier to deal with.

[Accursed Richards]

It took four "Why did I bother showing up?" stomps tonight. Three games were with everyone on the enemy team advancing under ECM and massive LRM spamming, so probably premade, and the fourth, my own team just ran off chasing squirrels and left me to die alone. Stomps seem more frequent this time of night. In the afternoons (GMT), the matches tend to be more balanced and fun. Generally, I log off when I start getting tense and irritable because that's not why anyone plays a game, and it increases the risk that I'll curse my own team out in public chat, something I usually regret,

For the record, my team left for other games, and I haven't got around to finding a new one yet. And once in a while, the attempts to rally and order the team actually work, with such revolutionary tactics as "stay together", "use cover" and "don't get pulled out" actually work, and it's nice to think that I not only won in "hard mode", but also helped give a noob a fun game.

Edited by Accursed Richards, 25 January 2013 - 03:43 PM.

[Heeden]

Ranzear, on 25 January 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

I only quit when I can't get a decent fight. If my team manages to stall the enemy long enough for me to pick a fight with something my size or larger I'm quite satisfied even if they get wiped out. As long as I take on and preferably take out my own weight or higher I've done my job and there's nothing I can do about my team being full of garbage.

It's when I pick a fight in my Hunchie with a Cataphract or something, start totally ripping him apart, and some SSRM abusing light comes along and starts cheesing it up that I walk away for a while. Nothing ruins this game like when some punk half your weight jumps in and tosses your decent brawling with his no-skill-no-aim-no-worry tactics.

I'm sure the 'phract thinks the same about you and your Hunchie.

[0X2A]

Upon reading that the stats will be reset, I personally will enjoy being pug stomped. It's a trial by fire that doesn't have backlash.

[ArcLyght]

Some sessions are worst than others, getting stomped over and over really does not bother me too much. Teams have the advantage in communication, knowing how their teammates play, and also what is on everyone's load-out. ATM I am competing with myself and ranking variations, but that is just me. I can see where folks will be turned off by this game being thrown in against premade teams, and not return after repeated lopsided loses.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

As many as it takes for me to develop enough patience to achieve enlightenment.

[Triggerhippy]

What a lot of "pugs" don't get is that quite often that 8 -0 loss is to anotother group of pugs, or that they had a 4 man premade on their side too. I was in a 4 man pre last night and we got flattened 8 - 2. It happens (oh btw I love 8 man drops it's sadly just a bitof a chore getting 8 people together so 4 man drops are easier to get some matches in).
If PGI had removed pugs from the premade que, this post wouldn't be here, bit instead it would be trials vrs owned mechs with a good lump of hatred and jealousy for thouse elite barstewards that modify their mechs killing trials indescriminately .

Also in reply to the chap that said this poll is for pugs not elite premade Nazis (or something to that effect) - it's a bit **** like to discriminate - and that's you not me doing it my friend - look to yourself before accusing others.

On to sinc dropping - 2; 4 man groups into a pug game 70% of the time they end up on opposite sides so actually even out the pug imbalances (though the random and clueless style often leads to the same result he pugs all die and the 2 4's slug it out at the end. Hopefully a skill based system of match making will help - it's no challenge for us either - I would like it if pugs got a little more of a clue as towards team work but I'll happily settle for being matched against other good players

[smokefield]

Megalosauroid, on 24 January 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

I only pug and i havnt been pug stomped badly enough to make me put the game down and do something else in a long time. If the teams are ridiculously unbalanced i dont even try to win, if i can punch above my own weight im satisfied.

same here

[Triggerhippy]

Oh yeah also this is the same in any game where you let the experienced mix with the noobs and skill less, instead of taking the opportunity to see what is being done and learning some new tricks they rage quit and complain. I've seen the same **** in WOT, planetside intact every online game. Try learning from mistakes - a good lesson is to make some friends and group up - this is a team game afterall!

[Chrithu]

I don't rage quite over getting stomped. Most of the times I can learn something from it. And even if not at least I'm most of the times still good enough to do have my part in what little kills my team gets and thus I get between 40k and 50k CBills even out of those matches so it doesn't matter.

On the other hand though I usually don't get stomped in more than 3 consecutive games and that's just tough luck and occurs very rarely. My win/loss ratio is above one so all in all I have a pretty fun time pugging my ways through the game.

[Ilwrath]

Jason Parker, on 28 January 2013 - 02:46 AM, said:

I don't rage quite over getting stomped. Most of the times I can learn something from it. And even if not at least I'm most of the times still good enough to do have my part in what little kills my team gets and thus I get between 40k and 50k CBills even out of those matches so it doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter? For many of us what matter is having fun. I don't give a **** about income or grinding or crap.
You don't learn anything at all from being stomped by some cheese premades. You only learn that the game is crappy.

Its like learning from getting run over by a car. You learn to not stand in teh ******** street. In this game you learn to not play.
That is some stupid crap eh?

Sad that we cannot fix this like you can fix the bad maps (simply rename their folder) because there is no folder for the premade scum. You can only exit the game.

[Triggerhippy]

Ilwrath, on 28 January 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:

Doesn't matter? For many of us what matter is having fun. I don't give a **** about income or grinding or crap.
You don't learn anything at all from being stomped by some cheese premades. You only learn that the game is crappy.

Its like learning from getting run over by a car. You learn to not stand in teh ******** street. In this game you learn to not play.
That is some stupid crap eh?

Sad that we cannot fix this like you can fix the bad maps (simply rename their folder) because there is no folder for the premade scum. You can only exit the game.

Oh you off then? Can I has your stuff?

Because if you are rigging the game by avoiding bad maps (simply renaming the folder) you sir are cheating and will be reported as such.

Edited by Triggerhippy, 28 January 2013 - 04:24 AM.

[Ilwrath]

Triggerhippy, on 28 January 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

Oh you off then? Can I has your stuff?

Because if you are rigging the game by avoiding bad maps (simply renaming the folder) you sir are cheating and will be reported as such.

Ofc I would do no such thing. Mostly because its bad (though I am not sure why).

How does cheating get into the picture?

[Escef]

I PUG exclusively, have over 1000 games under my belt, and I'm pretty mediocre at the game. I'm getting better, and I'm slowly dragging my stats out of the massive basement I dug learning the game.

I've only lost my cool a handful of times. The two biggest were the time I turned on an asshat who was speaking abusively to our team. I told him to stop or he'd eat SRMs. He didn't stop. I threw 5 tons of SRM ammo at him. Didn't kill him, he didn't kill me; but neither of us lasted long after that. I had no ammo, and he had crap left for armor (Stalkers are tough, BTW). The other was after an entire night of losing games with teams that didn't talk to each other and didn't support each other, I DC'd because I was tired of getting killed because no one else could understand the word "team"; and subsequently called it a night.

[Triggerhippy]

Ilwrath, on 28 January 2013 - 04:38 AM, said:

Ofc I would do no such thing. Mostly because its bad (though I am not sure why).

How does cheating get into the picture?

Cheating comes in when you take out maps you don't like as you admitted to doing. This allows you to build a mech for a map (which the rest of us can't do) - this IS an unfair advantage and far worse than simply having a few friends to drop with.

[Ilwrath]

Triggerhippy, on 28 January 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Cheating comes in when you take out maps you don't like as you admitted to doing. This allows you to build a mech for a map (which the rest of us can't do) - this IS an unfair advantage and far worse than simply having a few friends to drop with.

Nonsense. Nowhere do I say that I do this. I can understand people doing this with rivercity night tough. Such a crappy stinker of a map.

I fart in your friends general direction.