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[Cerlin]

I'll be honest I agree with the "time in IRL is more important than grind" opinion. I have bought several of my first mechs with MC because getting started again was rough when the open beta whipe happened. I had mc to use so I did. I make enough money in life that the money I spend on mc is actually cheaper than spending the time to get Cbills. I am sure I am not the only one with this same "problem."

[jay35]

Cerlin, on 25 January 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I'll be honest I agree with the "time in IRL is more important than grind" opinion. I have bought several of my first mechs with MC because getting started again was rough when the open beta whipe happened. I had mc to use so I did. I make enough money in life that the money I spend on mc is actually cheaper than spending the time to get Cbills. I am sure I am not the only one with this same "problem."

I'm precisely of the same mind, except the 'mechs are significantly overpriced. Therefore I neither grind them out nor over-pay for them. I have one 'mech so far, via c-bills, and if that's the way it stays, so be it. It's their loss, not mine.
I'd gladly drop $50-60 on this to get the complete game, and pay a couple dollars here and there for additional content injections down the road. (Say $5 DLC packages containing a couple new mechs and new maps, or content of similar value.) But not $10-20 for a single 'mech. No way. I'm sorry but Free2Play doesn't mean "change the entire cost scale so that getting the equivalent amount of content as a proper game requires spending several hundred dollars". Good luck with that. You'll be missing out on a lot of revenue by trying to keep that kind of pricing model.

Edited by jay35, 25 January 2013 - 02:19 PM.

[Dreamslave]

Yea, just purchased my last mech for MC, it being one of the dragons. At their current prices, I won't be making any more purchases. About the only thing I'll spend MC on now is just extra mech slots. Mech prices and the way camo spec currently is, is just a gigantic rip off.

[Ryvucz]

It's amazing how many people don't understand Free to Play models.

This is one of the cheapest F2P models out there.

Unlimited play time, in-game money gets you all needed equipment.

There isn't level restrictions to unlock items, and you do not "rent" equipment.

Before busting their ***** over pricing, take a look at the following Free to Play titles, then tell me it's overpriced.

Blacklight: Retribution
Star Trek Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Knights of the Sky
Runes of Magic
Atlantica

[Kotsuno]

Ryvucz, on 25 January 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

It's amazing how many people don't understand Free to Play models.

This is one of the cheapest F2P models out there.

Unlimited play time, in-game money gets you all needed equipment.

There isn't level restrictions to unlock items, and you do not "rent" equipment.

Before busting their ***** over pricing, take a look at the following Free to Play titles, then tell me it's overpriced.

Blacklight: Retribution
Star Trek Online

Amen.

Edited by Kotsuno, 25 January 2013 - 03:57 PM.

[White Bear 84]

Wizard Steve, on 25 January 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

But you'd have to be a total tool to buy a non-hero Dragon with MC.

LOL'd

[CyBerkut]

With the various things in this BETA version of the game that can be annoying / disappointing at times, it is rather amusing to see people b!tch about a completely optional opportunity to buy some non-hero variants at a discounted MC price.

If it doesn't float your boat, then clearly you shouldn't buy them... But perhaps, for a moment, you should consider that it isn't all about *you*. There are some players who have different circumstances / priorities, and some of them will welcome the temporary discount. With the possible exception of a few folks who got bumped off the servers during the reset, it's not any skin off of your butts... so why begrudge others the choice?

PGI is doing this as a Free-To-Play model. Income streams for them is a *good* thing. For those who feel various things, or even everything, is priced too high... well, you can play for completely free. Man, those bastages at PGI are just really hosing you over! Sheesh...

You can vote with your wallets, and that's fine. But why denigrate the offer, or those who would choose to avail themselves of it? Discouraging other players from making purchases isn't going to help PGI continue making payroll, or running servers. I don't know about each of you, but I suspect most of you, like myself, would like to see this game succeed, and persist. If other people are willing to cough up some money for *whatever* reason, make a smug smile, and sit back and enjoy the ride!

And no, buying the non-hero Dragons with MC does not currently appeal to *me*. But that's just me. For those who wish to, I applaud them.

Different horses for different courses!!!

[Skandrannon]

I think this deal, or ones like it, might, in the future.... be best received as a surprise extra bonus, when something significant happens.

Edited by Skandrannon, 25 January 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[Victor Kyle]

Haven't even spent MC on the hero variants yet. Might take up the offer, will make me look at the mechs any way. Maybe in the future PGI should run this offer on non hero variants when they release a hero variant. Just an idea.

[Commodore Perspicuous]

Summary of forums:

Player: "Screw this free to play game! They can't get anything done right the way I want it when I want it! I'm going home until it's fixed!"

PGI: "Hey players, we're going to make these popular and well-performing mechs cheaper, but only for regular currency because buying with in-game currency is already inherently 'cheap' and as a beta trying to work into a strong, quality product we need to give people a reason to spend money so we can afford to deliver the quality product you are ******* and moaning so much about wanting."

Player: "This is stupid! Why should I pay money for a quality end product?!"

And they lived happily ever after.

[jay35]

Ryvucz, on 25 January 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

It's amazing how many people don't understand Free to Play models.

This is one of the cheapest F2P models out there.

Unlimited play time, in-game money gets you all needed equipment.

There isn't level restrictions to unlock items, and you do not "rent" equipment.

Before busting their ***** over pricing, take a look at the following Free to Play titles, then tell me it's overpriced.

Blacklight: Retribution
Star Trek Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Knights of the Sky
Runes of Magic
Atlantica

Why would I compare this with games I don't play and have no interest in playing? Instead, I'd rather compare it with past MechWarrior games I have played (and many fans still play), none of which used a convoluted f2p grind mechanic to "unlock" content, especially in multiplayer.

[Slepnir]

Garth go ahead and make the grand dragon 5K (3050 model) and you got a deal. you got the proper energy arm now with the flame,. now all you need to do is put the weapon slots in the correct torso's. i really want to stop using my 1C as a proxy for it.

[Dukarriope]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 January 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yeah if you like the !C, then Flame is TOTALLY up your alley...... (I got mine dolled up as a 104 kph Grand Dragon..... might be the only thing I like more than my Speed Centurions)

Funny.. my Grand Dragon tends to eat slow, clumsy Stalkers for lunch (unless they are VERY well supported) as your ponderous turn rate and horrible fire arcs make you easy meat for anyone who knows how to drive a fast attack mech.

I use my Flame with the 2+2 config I first started on my C1; 2 large pulses and 2 medium lasers. Max engine and ferrofibrous, but I could of course pull out the ferro and do a grand dragon for fun.

[UnseenFury]

I already have all the non-MC dragons, my favorite mechs. Love it since it was added into the game.

Dragon is a mech for skilled and experienced player -

Majority of the player base (mentally handicapped ppl) are going to regret if they buy it with MC.

Pointless deal.

Take 20% off of a hero Dragon, allow us to change color schemes on hero and founder mechs and I will buy a hero Dragon.

Edited by Paran01ac, 25 January 2013 - 09:49 PM.

[Rivit]

I think PGI should set the hero mechs up like the ships in EVE online. Each chassie would have a certain number of hardpoints capable of either missile, ballistic, or energy. That would make them ultra customizable. They could ofcourse put some limits but still, a hero mech should have some type of advantage over a standard chassie other than just a few extra cbills. I know the Clan Omni mechs use modular tech so why not the special IS mechs?

[Jacmac]

Can't say I plan on buying any dragons for MC, but I think they should be having a sale on something every week.

[General Taskeen]

Slepnir, on 25 January 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Garth go ahead and make the grand dragon 5K (3050 model) and you got a deal. you got the proper energy arm now with the flame,. now all you need to do is put the weapon slots in the correct torso's. i really want to stop using my 1C as a proxy for it.

I imagine upgraded redesigns being entirely new 3D models (sleeker looking) (Cataphract->Caesar; Spider->Venom; Dragon->Grand Dragon ; etc). But yeah, it is entirely possible to make a fake 5K with the Flame, with the correct weapons (except for the medium lasers in the wrong spots), and the same engine.

[miscreant]

Zensei, on 25 January 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Not being anything but honest but..........I have both Dragon Hero Mechs and..........not so happy with the purchase and..............they mostly sit in the mech bay with the other 2 Hero Mechs mostly unused with............the mech bays I had to buy to store them and...............its not about money, I would guess that every purchase I made could be determined and could be verified in my mech bays, might surprise you what I have bought with real currency and the sold back for half price but...........thats my bad, a few hundred bucks doesnt mean that much to me, whats foolish to some is spending money to others, like I said, its not about money...........been playing since MW2 so this is my fine wine by choice but.............if I could I would reset everything and respend it all differently knowing what I know now but.................no biggie.

zen

Longest beta I've ever been a part of - Since April 2012.

[Karl Marlow]

Smudge504, on 25 January 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

I think PGI got this one horribly wrong, who pays MC for a basic mech???? if you reduced the Cbills price by 20% more people would have given the dragon a try and you know what... they probably would have bought a mech bay or two to accommodate the extra mechs, and you would have earned more money....

This is where I'm at. I already have a DRG-1N but I am reluctant to buy two more Dragons which have nearly the exact same loadout. I do kinda want to master them fro completeness sake. Had this been a Cbill sale I would have bought them instantly and the mech bays to store them. I never sell a mech once I buy them so I'm always having to buy mechbays.

As it is now though there are other mechs I would rather work on.

[Capp]

I don't like Dragons because I find the wobbling "car hood" effect very distracting.

That just me, but it's why I don't own any. (I tried one when it was a trial mech.)