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[MegaMasher]

BEFORE YOU VOTE!

This is NOT meant to be a bragging thread. I made the poll keep answers secret.

So, why do it? Simple, if enough people actually seriously respond we can get an idea where the average gamer lies. I have read multiple posts saying this or that KDR means you are doing OK or good, even other stating what the average player is. So, here can actually get a feel for what is "average".

So, post up your current, as in RIGHT NOW KDR option. Let us see what constitutes average.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 26 January 2013 - 04:19 PM.
edited Poll

[dF0X]

KDR means nothing about skill.

Worse than that, KDR actively encourages poor teamwork and bad behavior.

KDR should be removed from MWO, and soon.

[Homeless Bill]

I feel like you should have an >2 and >3 option as well. 1 --> 4 is a pretty big jump. And what the hell is with 6.5 and 8.5? Are these numbers just totally random?

Edited by Homeless Bill, 25 January 2013 - 06:43 PM.

[MegaMasher]

Homeless Bill, on 25 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

I feel like you should have an >2 and >3 option as well. 1 --> 4 is a pretty big jump. And what the hell is with 6.5 and 8.5? Are these numbers just totally random?

In hindsight, I would have had another option or two, but as soon as I posted I had half a dozen entries. So, too late now. Will still be interesting.

No, the numbers are not random. Started at 10, minus 1.5, minus 2, minus 2.5, minus 3. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

EDIT: Not ideal, but it lets us break down the 1-4 catagory, which will likely be the largest.

Edited by MegaMasher, 25 January 2013 - 06:49 PM.

[Scraper]

mines .56 and I don't care one bit. I've used a few trash mechs just to get the XP and then ditched them and I've had a few (less than 50 I'd guess) extremely lopsided matches (the 50 means either side of the skunk) 332 / 489 w/l. I've had fun in all but maybe 2 or 3 matches.

I picked a bad time to level up another light though (I prefer the Hunchback, but I've been piloting Commandos and Spiders lately to get them leveled up and out of my stable.

[MegaMasher]

To be clear Scraper, like I said in the OP, this isn't a brag thread. This thread is meant to be entirely for our, the gamers knowledge of what constitutes average. I learned a bit about making polls to, in a few weeks I will do it again and it will look a ton better. I hope we can get a few hundred voters though, it will make the totals more realistic, and help balance the gomers who just vote stupidly.

[Eddrick]

KDR does not equal skill (The symble for not equal to will not show). It just means they can get the killing blow more often then they die.

[GalaxyBluestar]

error occoured so i had to vote in the third question strike off one of those >1 votes

supporting the op here this is just a data gathering report. no need to explain where's whys and morals about the stats in question.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 25 January 2013 - 07:06 PM.

[CrashieJ]

GalaxyBluestar, on 25 January 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

error occoured so i had to vote in the third question strike off one of those >1 votes

supporting the op here this is just a data gathering report. no need to explain where's whys and morals about the stats in question.

same, therefore, this poll is rigged

[MegaMasher]

gavilatius, on 25 January 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

same, therefore, this poll is rigged

Are you drunk? How did I rig it?

[Kahoumono]

Totally agree that the KDR ruins teamwork. Too many times have I seen a team lose its shape because they are trying to kill that weaken light mech.

[CrashieJ]

MegaMasher, on 25 January 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

Are you drunk?

yes I am.

MegaMasher, on 25 January 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

How did I rig it?

I wouldn't know, I'm drunk.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

MegaMasher, on 25 January 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Simple, if enough people actually seriously respond we can get an idea where the average gamer lies.

Not exactly correct. We'll get an average for players who actually read the forums and may or may not be representative of the base at large.

[One Medic Army]

Amazingly, it should average out to a little under 1, right?
All kills cause the death of someone else, but some deaths aren't counted as kills.

[MegaMasher]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 25 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

Not exactly correct. We'll get an average for players who actually read the forums and may or may not be representative of the base at large.

True, but it beats just sitting around wondering. At least we will have some kind of sample.

One Medic Army, on 25 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

Amazingly, it should average out to a little under 1, right?
All kills cause the death of someone else, but some deaths aren't counted as kills.

To get such a number I would need everyones actualy KDR, and if I had that it probably would be something like that. As is, that one guy above 10, is he 10.01, or 100? All we really get is an idea on where the general player is. I wasn't shooting to find a mean, just a median and mode.

[Corison]

Where is the KDR Is a joke stat that really only represents if you pug stomp or team it option?

[MegaMasher]

I think in a day or two I will re-do this, with a better question/responses. I think the results will be FAR more interesting with a better setup.

[Marj]

KDR is meaningless. If I wanted my KDR to be 10 it would be...I'd just run the best mechs in groups. But I don't do that, I grind unupgraded mechs to get to elite, I pug, and I rarely play mechs I've already mastered. My KDR is at 2.25 as a result and I don't care.

Eventually PGI will give us stats for individual mechs (and hopefully weapons too). Then they might become meaningful.

[Ravn]

Central Tendencies of Statistics of k/d should be centered and normally distributed around 0. That means about 66% of folks should be about +/- 3. Your data is biased.

Edited by Ravn, 25 January 2013 - 10:17 PM.

[Splinters]

KDR may be meaningless in the overall scheme of things, but I am curious to see what the results are nonetheless. Do the KDR's average out or not? One possible issue is in regards to DC's do get the loss? Or are people over 10 KDR also trying to optimize it for bragging rights?

-S