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[Gonta]

Good day to all.

My system is: AMD A10-5800K, 8Gb 2133 RAM, win7 x64, catalyst 13.1
And i can't run MWO without missed textures and models.
Its look like on screenshot

The same problem i have on my old system P4 3.2Ghz, 4Gb ddr2 400 mhz, and ASUS AH3650, Vista x86.

Maybe i have wrong video driver? But afaik catayst 13.1 is the last.

What can it be, and how can i resolve this?

Thank You

[Gonta]

Here is log from "Omicron Build(4418) 01 Feb 13 (23 18 23).log"

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BackupNameAttachment=" Build(4418) 01 Feb 13 (23 18 23)" -- used by backup system

Log Started at 02/01/13 23:18:23
Running 32 bit version
Executable: E:\Games\Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online\Bin32\MWOClient.exe
FileVersion: 3.4.1.4418
ProductVersion: 3.4.1.4418
Using STLport C++ Standard Library implementation
Added MOD directory <engine> to CryPak
Executable Command Line: "E:\Games\Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online\Bin32\MWOClient.exe" flowthru

Total number of logical processors: 4
Number of available logical processors: 4
Total number of system cores: 4
Number of cores available to process: 4

Processor 0:
CPU: AMD AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics
Family: 15, Model: 0, Stepping: 1
FPU: On-Chip
CPU Speed (estimated): 3.7 MHz
MMX: not present
SSE: present
3DNow!: not present
Serial number not present or disabled

Processor 1:
CPU: AMD AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics
Family: 15, Model: 0, Stepping: 1
FPU: On-Chip
CPU Speed (estimated): 3.7 MHz
MMX: not present
SSE: present
3DNow!: not present
Serial number not present or disabled

Processor 2:
CPU: AMD AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics
Family: 15, Model: 0, Stepping: 1
FPU: On-Chip
CPU Speed (estimated): 3.7 MHz
MMX: not present
SSE: present
3DNow!: not present
Serial number not present or disabled

Processor 3:
CPU: AMD AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics
Family: 15, Model: 0, Stepping: 1
FPU: On-Chip
CPU Speed (estimated): 3.7 MHz
MMX: not present
SSE: present
3DNow!: not present
Serial number not present or disabled

[Error] Error: ConsoleVariableGroup 'sys_spec_environment' key 'e_TerrainLodRatio' is not missing in default
[Error] Error: ConsoleVariableGroup 'sys_spec_environment' key 'sys_spec_Quality' is not missing in default
[Error] Error: ConsoleVariableGroup 'sys_spec_environment' key 'r_ssreflections' is not missing in default
[Error] Error: ConsoleVariableGroup 'sys_spec_postprocessing' key 'r_UseEdgeAA' is not missing in default
Windows 7 64 bit SP 1 (build 6.1.7601)
System language: Russian
Windows Directory: "C:\Windows"
Prerequisites...
* Installation of KB940105 hotfix required: no! (either not needed or already installed)
Local time is 23:18:24 02/01/13, system running for 224 minutes
7645MB physical memory installed, 6232MB available, 4095MB virtual memory installed, 18 percent of memory in use
PageFile usage: 27MB, Working Set: 19MB, Peak PageFile usage: 27MB,
Current display mode is 1680x1050x32, (Unknown graphics card)
Japanese keyboard and 3+ button mouse installed
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Stream Engine Initialization
GameName: MechWarrior Online
BuildTime: Jan 21 2013 12:51:54
Windows Error Reporting is enabled setting exception handler
Font initialization
Physics initialization
Sound initialization
<Sound> Initializing AudioDevice now!
<Sound> Initialize FMOD with dynamic memory callbacks
<Sound> Starting to initialize Windows Audio Session API output!
<Sound> Drivers found: 2
<Sound> Available drivers:
1. 8=0<8:8 (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM))
2. SPDIF Out (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM))
<Sound> FmodEx-AudioDevice: Now running on driver: 8=0<8:8 (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM))
<Sound> Using speaker mode: FMOD_SPEAKERMODE_STEREO
<Sound> Initializing FMOD-EX now!
<Sound> Initialized FMOD-EX
<Sound> Available record drivers: 0 8:@>D>= (C48> CAB@>9AB20 USB) !
<Sound> Available record drivers: 1 S/PDIF-In (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)) !
<Sound> Available record drivers: 2 Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC) (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)) !
<Sound> Available record drivers: 3 Microphone (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)) !
<Sound> Available record drivers: 4 "What U Hear" (Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)) !
<Sound> Record config is set to autodetect using record driver 0
<Sound> Using FMOD version: 00044004 and internal 00044004!
<Sound> Initializing SoundSystem now!
Renderer initialization
used GeomInstancingThreshold is 2
Localized language content(english) not available or modified from the original installation.
Localized language content(english) not available or modified from the original installation.
Network initialization
[net] using iocp socket io management
network hostname: ABC
ip:192.168.1.2
[Network Version]: RELEASE PURE CLIENT
MovieSystem initialization
Console initialization
Time initialization
Input initialization
AI initialization
Initializing Animation System
Initializing 3D Engine
Initializing default materials...
Script System Initialization
Entity system initialization
Initializing AI System
[PlayerProfiles] Login of user 'admin': First Time Login - Successfully created default profile 'default'
[PlayerProfiles] Login of user 'admin' successful.
[GameProfiles]: Successfully activated profile 'default' for user 'admin'
Patch Complete Received
Patch Complete Received
Patch Complete Received
Patch Complete Received
============================ Loading level mechlab ============================
======== mechlab is loaded in 4.7 sec ========
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds]
could not free all buffers from CDevBufferMan!
UnLoadLevel End: 0.4 sec
Game rules class: Assault
============================ PrepareLevel rivercity ============================
Initializing default materials...
[Error] Runaway thread
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'objects/environments/skyboxes/forestcolony_clouddome_a.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=objects/environments/skyboxes/forestcolony_clouddome_a.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'objects/environments/skyboxes/rivercity_cloud_fulldome.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=objects/environments/skyboxes/rivercity_cloud_fulldome.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'objects/environments/skyboxes/rivercity_planet_dif.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=objects/environments/skyboxes/rivercity_planet_dif.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds]
[Error] [UIAction] HUD (0): UIElement does not have object _root.mcMain.mcCurrentLayout.mcSpecHud.SetName
======== rivercity is loaded in 20.3 sec ========
[Error] CryAnimation: no valid character file-format: EngineAssets/Objects/Default.cgf
[Error] [UIAction] HUD (0): UIElement does not have object _root.mcMain.mcCurrentLayout.mcSpecHud.SetCount
[Error] [UIAction] HUD (0): UIElement does not have object _root.mcMain.mcCurrentLayout.mcSpecHud.SetName
CGameClientChannel::Release
could not free all buffers from CDevBufferMan!
UnLoadLevel End: 0.8 sec
sv_gamerules = mechlab []
============================ Loading level mechlab ============================
Initializing default materials...
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds]
======== mechlab is loaded in 4.0 sec ========
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/ppc_beam_b.dds]
[Error] Error: CTexMan::ImagePreprocessing: Scaling of 'textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds' compressed texture is dangerous (only single mip) [File=textures/particles/weapons/laser_beam_1x4_lop0.dds]

[Barbaric Soul]

Your using the APU's onboard graphics aren't you? There's your reason. Get a proper video card.

[Gonta]

imho its a bug
game on onboard graphic can lag and freez, but textures & objects should be visible
i'll test crysis 2 now, its on the same engine like a mwo

[Gonta]

Crysis 2 works fine on A10, so mwo must.

[Catamount]

Crysis 2 is a little different than MWO, since MWO can only run in CPU-hogging DX9, but nevertheless, the GPU in that APU should be fine. You won't be rocking 60fps on high, but that game should easily be reasonably smooth on lower settings, and should certainly at least render correctly.

No, the speed of your hardware is definitely not your problem here. I realize this is painfully obvious, but just to make sure all bases are covered, you did try re-installing MWO, and making sure your DX9 was fully up to date, right?

[Gonta]

Right, i have install MWO on the "fresh", "naked" win7, and DX is version 11 now. Have only 2 games now - MWO and Crysis 2.

I'm waiting now for support answer.
Maybe they can resolve this in next patch.

[Catamount]

Well keep in mind that MWO is not a DX11 game, so you need to keep your DX9 files up to date, which is a separate matter. When you first run the game installer, it gives you the option to do that.

I doubt it's the issue, but again, this is just keeping all our bases covered.

Download the updater here, and just give it a run:

http://www.microsoft...ails.aspx?id=35


I wouldn't be surprised if, for whatever it counts for, you DX9 files weren't up to date. I don't believe they would be on a fresh Windows 7 install.

Edited by Catamount, 02 February 2013 - 03:17 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

I use an A10 5800K and play MW:O at 20+ FPS on all medium. So I'd have to say this is a bug, not your APU. And like Catamount said this game is DX9, not 11. Try getting DX9 and see if that changes anything.

Barbaric Soul, on 02 February 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Your using the APU's onboard graphics aren't you? There's your reason. Get a proper video card.

I see someone mistook ignorance for education.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 02 February 2013 - 03:44 PM.

[Barbaric Soul]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 02 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

I see someone mistook ignorance for education.

I see someone stuck thier foot in thier mouth. According to the review I saw before posting, the 5800k with it's IGP only gets 23 fps at 1080p in Crysis 2, and we all know Crysis 2 has better performance than MW:O with the same hardware.



Source- http://www.techspot....800k/page7.html

That why I suggested it was the APU's onboard graphics.

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 02 February 2013 - 03:56 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Barbaric Soul, on 02 February 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

I see someone stuck thier foot in thier mouth. According to the review I saw before posting, the 5800k with it's IGP only gets 23 fps at 1080p in Crysis 2, and we all know Crysis 2 has better performance than MW:O with the same hardware.

<snipped graphics>

That why I suggested it was the APU's onboard graphics.

So you're not ignorant, you just don't speak from personal experience, fine.

What I'm NOT sure is how you go from seeing that a Trinity APU can get 20+ fps in Cry Engine and then say that it would have the OPs issues. Am I wrong, or did you just "decide" that despite knowing his APU can play this game at 20+ fps would... somehow... not load all those textures? Is that what ye thought? Really?

That's friggin hilarious considering the table you used as proof says it would do otherwise - IE better than the OP describes. Might want to rethink how ye use your facts... they're not meant to be used like a drunk man uses lamp posts... for support, rather than for illumination.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 02 February 2013 - 05:00 PM.

[Flapdrol]

barbaric soul, did you even read the first post? there's no complaining about performance.

[Catamount]

Point of interest on that benchmark, Barbaric: that framerate is from the game running on high (granted, without AF/AA). I don't think anyone claimed an APU would net good performance in MWO on high, but it should do just find on lower settings. At low/med, this game will probably CPU bottleneck more often than GPU bottleneck.

Edited by Catamount, 02 February 2013 - 06:11 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Catamount, on 02 February 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Point of interest on that benchmark, Barbaric: that framerate is from the game running on high (granted, without AF/AA). I don't think anyone claimed an APU would net good performance in MWO on high, but it should do just find on lower settings. At low/med, this game will probably CPU bottleneck more often than GPU bottleneck.

If my CPU usage is any indication it doesn't. Although I'm not entirely sure that's the indicator or not.

And no, I myself and no one else here have ever said anything other than: APUs aren't meant to be high performance, their just to let ye play the game minus eye candy for dirt cheap. Seems some people skip these facts just so they can go straight to bashing on equipment they hate whether or not they actually have any relevance. Usually people who are so insecure that they have to sneer at and deride anything lower price than theirs.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 02 February 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[Catamount]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 02 February 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

If my CPU usage is any indication it doesn't. Although I'm not entirely sure that's the indicator or not.

It isn't, unfortunately. The only way to spot a CPU bottleneck is to see what happens when you eliminate the GPU as a factor. Basically, play at minimum settings at 1024x768 and you'll see what a CPU-bound game looks like; on my 3570k it means highs in the 200s, lows in the 40s (yes, 40s), and averages in the high 60s, according to my various fraps benchmark runs. Since that's the best my CPU can do, I know that no matter how fast my GPU can run the game, that's what it's limited to.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Catamount, on 02 February 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

It isn't, unfortunately. The only way to spot a CPU bottleneck is to see what happens when you eliminate the GPU as a factor. Basically, play at minimum settings at 1024x768 and you'll see what a CPU-bound game looks like; on my 3570k it means highs in the 200s, lows in the 40s (yes, 40s), and averages in the high 60s, according to my various fraps benchmark runs. Since that's the best my CPU can do, I know that no matter how fast my GPU can run the game, that's what it's limited to.

Good to know, thanks.

[Tarl Cabot]

Catamount, on 02 February 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Well keep in mind that MWO is not a DX11 game, so you need to keep your DX9 files up to date, which is a separate matter. When you first run the game installer, it gives you the option to do that.

I doubt it's the issue, but again, this is just keeping all our bases covered.

Download the updater here, and just give it a run:

http://www.microsoft...ails.aspx?id=35


I wouldn't be surprised if, for whatever it counts for, you DX9 files weren't up to date. I don't believe they would be on a fresh Windows 7 install.

To add the the above, in the Cat software, set everything to use application settings

[Oderint dum Metuant]

there were some other requirements too iirc.

DX9
.Net Framework

Can't remember the last one.

[Barbaric Soul]

I see where I was wrong, my apologies

[Catamount]

Bah, don't sweat it.