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[cleghorn6]

If you're going to ***** on team chat about "stupid puggies" and make snarky comments about teamwork ( all after your own death, mind) you should at least make the effort to give some orders for us to follow. We may be indifferent quality but we're certainly not psychic.

If you are on TS with your bros, talking an excellent game you have a strategic advantage. Use it to deliver timely orders to your legion of PUG minions. Sure sometimes we will tell you to stick it, but that's because we don't always play to win.

On this occasion I was the one holding targets for your LRMs, then I was the one holding 3 Ravens and a Stalker off your ***. When I went down (and I was always going to, at those odds) I was second last to do so.

So how about you look to your own house, before you start complaining about "stupid puggies".

[Rannos]

*Pubbies

Also, a premade isn't not a pubbie.

Edited by Rannos, 30 January 2013 - 04:37 PM.

[Psikez]

Don't take LRM80s with no defense weapons pubz

[Fabe]

Stand by for incoming "Pug don't listen so why bother" defense in......

[Psikez]

Fabe, on 30 January 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Stand by for incoming "Pug don't listen so why bother" defense in......

I call it the pugflower aka the deathbloom, when every single player runs in a different direction

Edited by Psikez, 30 January 2013 - 04:39 PM.

[shadevarr]

when I miraculously get my friends online, we do give orders even if its so much as just letting others know where were heading (if were in assaults) or what we see (if were running scouts).

[Like a Sir]

Don't usually bother to give orders in 4 mans, but at the start of the match, before the counter runs out. We will decide which way we are going. Then I drop a line like this "4 of us taking 3 line to upper city, feel free to join" More often then not, the majority of the pugs will gladly follow us and shoot at the enemy...

[Davers]

cleghorn6, on 30 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

If you are on TS with your bros, talking an excellent game you have a strategic advantage. Use it to deliver timely orders to your legion of PUG minions. Sure sometimes we will tell you to stick it, but that's because we don't always play to win.


So how about you look to your own house, before you start complaining about "stupid puggies".

Maybe people say that because they do play to win, and it's annoying to play with people that don't?

[Psikez]

Davers, on 30 January 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Maybe people say that because they do play to win, and it's annoying to play with people that don't?

Well there are people that play for fun. Mind-boggling

[Tikkamasala]

Davers, on 30 January 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Maybe people say that because they do play to win, and it's annoying to play with people that don't?

Find more like-minded players and try 8vs8 then. If you really play to win then there's nothing wrong with the 8vs8 queue.

[Lorcan Lladd]

Davers, on 30 January 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Maybe people say that because they do play to win, and it's annoying to play with people that don't?

Well, maybe people are just silly.
I play with anyone, everyone, and I enjoy it very much.

[MischiefSC]

It's not a bad idea to try and play with the group if you want to win, pug or premade or whatever. Premades have an advantage in teamspeak and do a good job (when they are willing to not be twits about it) being an organized focus for a team of 4x +4 pugs.

When your whole team loses it's often because a couple of people went off to suicide or explore the cave or try to cap the enemy base instead of stick with the team and kill people.

Not that you don't run into jerks of all stripes.

[GoManGo]

Here is a Classic PINHEAD premade jerk on coms discussion that happened to me today. Hey lets group up and do a 4 man? HDR I think it was HDR go F-OFF puggie your not welcome! Wow cool dudes so I went into battle as a pug but stayed on the coms this team was on and LOLL I ended up on there team a 4 man +4 pugs. Then this A-hole says in game charge them at theta so 2 pugs stayed behind and us 2 pugs and the 4 man go in 3 -10 seconds later there all dead the 4 premade dudes and the other pug we killed 1 of them.So I backtracked to our remaining becon station with the other 2 pugs and we took out 3 more. Then this A-hole on the 4 man premade goes you Fing pugs suck I hate it when you don't help out. I said well exleast we did not run in like noobs and get killed in 10 seconds .And he goes well your all still noobs and idiots. I just LOLL in the chat what else can you say.

Edited by GoManGo, 30 January 2013 - 04:52 PM.

[Davers]

Psikez, on 30 January 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Well there are people that play for fun. Mind-boggling

Would you want a pick up game of baseball where people weren't interested in batting or catching balls? Maybe you and the OP can tell me how playing for fun is different than playing to win? To me 'playing for fun' would be seeing how many jumps a Jenner takes before he legs himself. Maybe your definition is different from mine.

Tikkamasala, on 30 January 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

Find more like-minded players and try 8vs8 then. If you really play to win then there's nothing wrong with the 8vs8 queue.

I really want to play more 8 mans. I would rather lose to a better team than win vs a trial mech any day. In fact, from now on I will push for 8 mans whenever I join a group. You have inspired me.

Lorcan Lladd, on 30 January 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Well, maybe people are just silly.
I play with anyone, everyone, and I enjoy it very much.

I play with everyone too. I've had team mates that never get above 50 damage. I've had teammates who consistently are the first to die every match. But they are trying to get better, and to win.

[Psikez]

Davers, on 30 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Would you want a pick up game of baseball where people weren't interested in batting or catching balls? Maybe you and the OP can tell me how playing for fun is different than playing to win? To me 'playing for fun' would be seeing how many jumps a Jenner takes before he legs himself. Maybe your definition is different from mine.

It's more like trying to use a hockey stick to bat the ball.

For example 2 PPC jenner

[KharnZor]

No matter what you do or say, haters gunna hate.

[BlackBeltJones]

I used to think that premades in general would evolve a system where they each send members to PUG X# of matches to recruit talented Lone Wolves, thus a beautiful symbiotic relationship would be born. But what happened is we all took a dump in the bathwater instead.

Edited by BlackBeltJones, 30 January 2013 - 06:04 PM.

[Thirdstar]

BlackBeltJones, on 30 January 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

I used to think that premades in general would evolve a system where they each send members to PUG X# of matches to recruit talented Lone Wolves, thus a beautiful symbiotic relationship would be born. But what happened is we all took a dump in the bathwater instead.

Pretty much. The well is poisoned beyond repair now. The community will never ever get along now, there's just too much damn negativity on both sides.

[Fabe]

Like a Sir, on 30 January 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Don't usually bother to give orders in 4 mans, but at the start of the match, before the counter runs out. We will decide which way we are going. Then I drop a line like this "4 of us taking 3 line to upper city, feel free to join" More often then not, the majority of the pugs will gladly follow us and shoot at the enemy...

I usually follow the largest group any ways but if I do ever find myself following you its nice to know you have a plan.

[Rocket Puppy]

Most the time when someone starts raging about how terrible the team was they were the cause of their own demise. If they take the time to type out how horrible the team was it is guaranteed that they caused their own death by playing poorly.