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#101 SpajN

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

im of the opionion it should actually cost a little extra so it actually is a little rare to find coloured mechs.. if everyone has the latest cammo there is nothing special about it and if you come in stock coloured you get the question "are you new? why u not use cammo bro?"

#102 Mordynak

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

Not sure if this is related to this or not. But i've always used the PC gamer colour and skin, and now, my mech is bright red and white, and the black is now a dark purple...

It seems like all the mech colours are now much brighter.

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I like the new paint and camo system, but it is all just way overpriced. Also, i really can't see any reason why certain colours would cost more than others. Who chooses which colours are more valuable ?

Edited by Mordynak, 05 February 2013 - 03:10 PM.


#103 Major Derps

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

Prices are fine, especially considering what the were to buy a pattern for a single mech. Get a single use if you dont want to pay that much for one, or don't paint your mech. Besides, from my experience, painted mechs get primaried first.

#104 Velete

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

4250 for a Phranken?! being charged for each seperate colour AND the pattern...
Sure you can use it on other variants but even the old system was better than this

#105 Oy of MidWorld

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

View Postjay35, on 05 February 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Yep, the prices are absurd. It's a color. Seriously, wtf.


They said they would make money this way from the very beginning. They need to make money to make this game last. This is way better than some pay to win ****, since no one really needs a colour to rock this game.

Fine by me.

Edited by Oy of MidWorld, 05 February 2013 - 03:24 PM.


#106 Ace Kaller

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

I absolutely love the new system. My camos were always pretty basic, color tweaks of the default pattern, so after spending 750mc doing my first mech, all my other non-founders, non-hero mechs are now back in my 4th Tau Ceti colors for no additional cost. Just about where it should be for an item like this.

#107 Corison

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

I _hate_ the new color and I have to wonder about the UI review process.

1) Its almost impossible for me to see mechs on the mini-map let alone make out their facing.

2) Its _VERY_ hard to read the text now. Its blurred and blends with the background to easily.

Just to be clear, the new _BLUE_ text was a very bad idea and I have no idea how your team thought it was ok.

Edited by Corison, 05 February 2013 - 03:39 PM.


#108 Icebound

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Gotta love that half the people in here think that the topic is about paint or think that buying a 1250mc pattern can be used across all mechs.

#109 HRR Insanity

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:31 PM

1. MC costs remain far too high for color unlocks. Things should translate to less than $1-2 for a color.
2. "Unlocked" needs to be the TOP category, not the bottom one.
3. Camo needs to be unlocked for ALL 'Mechs for a cost. That cost should also be reasonable. $2-4.

#110 Sesambrot

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

You know, at first I liked the idea of the new system, except for the prices... then again if you ask me, pretty much everything is overpriced atm, so maybe it's just me *shrug*
Then I found out that crap about the phranken-pattern and how it now cost about 4-5 times as much as before, but I didn't buy it since I consider everything to be overpriced anyway... guess I was right not putting any real money into those patterns after all...
While surprisingly the pattern-prices seemed somewhat reasonable them being only available on a single variant made me clench my teeth a bit and colors where ridiculously overpriced, but I kinda saw that coming.

However, what did they do then?!? They painted my mechs in a green that makes them glow like an irradiated Ghoul that just escaped from FO3 and makes you wonder if your enemies will be able to track you down by a trail of snot, and the only way to get rid of it is to buy either otherwise glowy colors for CBills or actually put real money into a more sensible CAMO...

You see, I was always a little upset that there wasn't at last even a single basic black, white or grey amongst the basic colors, and one would figure that with a total of 100+ colors to chose from, they would have extended the basic pallet by one or two as well, but they didn't...
Up until now, I didn't really mind, because those basic colors looked alright, not special, but at least it was similar to the environment and you didn't look like irradiated snot!
But now..... Come on?!? SRSLY?!?

#111 Strucker

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:38 PM

So the preliminary costs of Paint Colors are this:
250MC Colors:
18 x 250 = 4500MC
500MC Colors:
48 x 500 = 24000MC
1000MC Colors:
54 x 1000 = 54000MC

For a grand total of 82500MC, that is just on colors alone, and that is only using the 3 major headings (eg: Standard, Premium, and Camo). I did not do a thorough look to see if there were any other colors available so this is just a rough estimate of costs.

If you were to only buy 25000MC packages this would be equal to $400.00, I think the cash grab has officially begun

Edited by Strucker, 05 February 2013 - 03:40 PM.


#112 Strucker

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

So the preliminary costs of Paint Colors are this:
250MC Colors:
18 x 250 = 4500MC
EDIT: The 250MC colors are currently the one's on sale from 500MC meaning after the sale it will be equivalent to another 4500MC
500MC Colors:
48 x 500 = 24000MC
1000MC Colors:
54 x 1000 = 54000MC

For a grand total of 87000MC (without any sale discount), that is just on colors alone, and that is only using the 3 major headings (eg: Standard, Premium, and Camo). I did not do a thorough look to see if there were any other colors available so this is just a rough estimate of costs.

If you were to only buy 25000MC packages this would be equal to $400.00, I think the cash grab has officially begun.

If anyone has the exact total cost for MC paints please feel free to update me and i will change the post accordingly, do not include Camo Patterns

Edited by Strucker, 05 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.


#113 Scraper

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

The more important question is... why didn't they update the mechs that can wear the PC Gamer Camo :P

Honestly, the prices are fine. I only plan on running cammo on 2-3 Mech Types. The colors at 1K a pop are a bit more than I'd like, BUT I'm only buying the discounted colors at the moment and holding out for a "sale".

#114 Night Rider

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostStrucker, on 05 February 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

If you were to only buy 25000MC packages this would be equal to $400.00, I think the cash grab has officially begun.


It will begin if you can kill me with your fifty shades of grey

#115 One Medic Army

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Really, there should be more CBill colors, and fewer 1000MC colors.
100+ colors! Most of them 1000MC each!
5 CBIll colors?

#116 Krellek

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Just a quick 'Thank You to PGI' for listening to the community and allowing permanent camo color and pattern purchasing.

One suggestion I have is allowing us to purchase color's without having to place them on a mech. If I want six camo color's, I would prefer not to paint a mech twice over to do so. More of a fluidity thing but helpful none the less.

Thanks again.

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#117 King David Davion

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Expensive for a paint/colour

#118 Duncan Thyrgar

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

I really was taut about the new patch, under normal circumstances i dont give to much into special stylings but, well yes my 2-4 favourite mechs i´d like to customize them...
Not any more, u took away my camo and retaking it will cost me 4 times as much, so thats where i break.
We have been discussing this in a group of then players, half of them founders, playing almost every day and we argued since the start about the founders packages pricing and the add time and the mech bays and the cockpit items, but every one paid around 100-200 bucks till the start, atleast double the money we´d pay for an other game...because we really like it and we´d like to support it.

But today we had to agree that we are getting ripped to the bone for things not worth it and i´m sure that this pricing strategy will hit u in the back like a AC20.

People will start to feel uncomfortable and taken for a ride and will stop paying money, just like us...and this will again lead to lots of green mechs stumbling around on the field, taking much of the atmosphere out of the game.

We are also developers, most of us developing games as well and we all know the pressure of sales and marketing, because you did great revenues in the last months and thats good, but if you are going to keep that behavior you will kill your user basis before release. For gods sake it´s paintings on virtual constructs!

Please read the posts and feedbacks and get serious before no one of us spends a single buck any more... We want this great game to carry on.

#119 Rofl

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

Permanent camo pattern costs, as mentioned above, are more for people who will swap out camos on the same mech multiple times in that mech's lifetime. Otherwise, single seems fine.

Why didn't PGI do this with colors?!

#120 BlackSquirrel

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

Yes but seeing as it's cosmetic. ( I suppose you could make a stretch argument stating camo and blending in to environment) You dont need to buy it. It's completely optional... and therefore if you dont like the prices dont buy them.

There are also C-bill only colors so you're not totally up **** creak if you're to cheap or too poor, or too disgruntled.





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