#7461
Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:12 PM
#7462
Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:24 PM
Protection, on 17 November 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:
"Ze first one of you to look avay from ze vall vill be annihilated. Zat is all."
Twilight, you monster. That was a seriously sick and sadistic form of torture.
(but yeah, it was a fun episode)
Sick and twisted......hmm.........i think i need to watch MLP now.........
Egomane, on 18 November 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:
And on for our Invader Zim friends
Im not sure why i clicked on this thread(its been awhile since ive been here) but something made me........it was GIR.
#7463
Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:40 PM
Protection, on 18 November 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:
Not to mention, the method of extermination looks particularly painful and a horrible way to die.
This scene is really, really, really dark. Look how pleased with herself she is when she's eradicated all but two of the Pinkie-beings. Notice how Fluttershy and Rarity are frightened and disgusted, but powerless to stop her brutal and cruel magical mass murder.
Dark, pain, doom, frightened and disgusted, brutal and cruel?
I THINK I LOVE MLP!!!!!!!
Also : Twilight the Homicidal Unicorn :
#7465
Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:31 PM
#7466
Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:25 PM
Lyra is going to be so jealous . .
#7469
Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:55 PM
#7471
Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:44 PM
You'd think she'd have popped up somewhere.
#7472
Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:49 PM
Majorfatboy, on 19 November 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:
You'd think she'd have popped up somewhere.
In the crowd scene in last episode in front of the library, she's facing away from the camera, bottom right.
#7474
Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:19 PM
#7475
Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:43 PM
Protection, on 18 November 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:
Even if the other Pinkies were somehow 'lesser beings' than the 'real' Pinkie Pie - they were still clearly sentient creatures. They were capable of communication (Pinkie explaining things to them, understanding orders and directives), higher learning (learning proper names of Ponies), enjoyment ("fun!"), and demonstrated a desire to survive (none of them would have looked at the wall at all had they no desire to continue to exist).
And then T-w-i-l-i-g-h-t G-e-n-o-c-i-d-e over there decides that they don't count as people and are free to be eradicated, lower than cattle, really.
Not to mention, the method of extermination looks particularly painful and a horrible way to die.
This scene is really, really, really dark. Look how pleased with herself she is when she's eradicated all but two of the Pinkie-beings. Notice how Fluttershy and Rarity are frightened and disgusted, but powerless to stop her brutal and cruel magical mass murder.
The thing is, this totally fits with Twilight Sparkle's Autistic following of the rules. to her those other Pinkie's aren't real people, they're clones, only the "real" pinky is real to her, because that fits within the confines of what she's defined as her world.
Is it still screwed up. HORRIBLY... but it's totally in character for Twilight.
In fact the first two episodes was Celestia trying to break Twilight of her Autistic following of the rules "to the letter."
#7476
Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:45 PM
Jade Kitsune, on 19 November 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:
The thing is, this totally fits with Twilight Sparkle's Autistic following of the rules. to her those other Pinkie's aren't real people, they're clones, only the "real" pinky is real to her, because that fits within the confines of what she's defined as her world.
Is it still screwed up. HORRIBLY... but it's totally in character for Twilight.
In fact the first two episodes was Celestia trying to break Twilight of her Autistic following of the rules "to the letter."
I would posit that Twilight has a better understanding of the subtleties of the magic involved here than we probably could understand (being the element of magic, magical laws specific to Equestria, etc.), and can therefore make a rational statement as to why or why not the Pinkie clones aren't truly "real".
But that's just kinda a boring cop-out, so I'm gonna go with my theory on the matter. I think that the Mirror Pond doesn't create a clone so much as a "snapshot" or simple reflection of the individual - a copy of the surface of the pony in question that lacks the true heart and mind behind the real pony (or, the depth of the character's personality). So, with the Pinkie's we got the fun obsession, but with a total disregard for others and a lack of any sort of long-term thinking. As such, they weren't so much ponies or clones as they were magical automaton - like golems designed with one goal in mind, the total and complete acquisition of fun.
#7477
Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:43 PM
Kasai Oni, on 19 November 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:
But that's just kinda a boring cop-out, so I'm gonna go with my theory on the matter. I think that the Mirror Pond doesn't create a clone so much as a "snapshot" or simple reflection of the individual - a copy of the surface of the pony in question that lacks the true heart and mind behind the real pony (or, the depth of the character's personality). So, with the Pinkie's we got the fun obsession, but with a total disregard for others and a lack of any sort of long-term thinking. As such, they weren't so much ponies or clones as they were magical automaton - like golems designed with one goal in mind, the total and complete acquisition of fun.
I have to disagree since the real pinkie pie could be sent into the pond as well. So if the real one can be sent back, then all the clones must be considered real as well. They were all exact copies in behavior and how pinkie pie acts. The only thing not copied was the true pinkies memories which can only be gained with experience through living. Think of the clones as more of a pinkie pie with amnesia. The reason the true pinkie pie acted differently was because she had memories to reflect apon the situation at hand and came to the conclusion that making clones was a bad idea because she could no longer be with her friends.
So Twilight did commit mass murder in my opinion.
Edited by Hollister, 20 November 2012 - 12:44 PM.
#7478
Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:59 PM
Kasai Oni, on 19 November 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:
I concur. Also, the word you're looking for is "simulacrum".
#7479
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:28 PM
It's also not clear if Pinkie Pie would have been killed by being sent back to the pond or simply trapped there.
Leave it to Rainbow Dash to help speed up the process of finding the last clone:
#7480
Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:48 AM
I think we're losing sight of what's really important here.
This:
That's right folks, moar Derpy toys. Oh yeah, they also make this rainbow colored one as well, whatever.
They're being made by some company called "Funko". I'm not exactly inclined to spend cash on pony toys, but I made an exception for Derpy. God help My diseased brain.
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