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[MischiefSC]

I see this a lot and it irks me.

A team is just a group of players. Skill level varies in pug matches but you need to adapt to that. If you're only a 'good player' when you happen to be on a team of good players, the problem is you.

If you have a good team make sure you're part of the plan and not something they have to work around.

If your team doesn't seem to communicate much then you need to keep chat moving and make sure people know there is a plan and what it is.

If your team doesn't seem to follow plans or is all new, pick the largest group of them you can and support them - stop trying to lead if nobody is following. Follow the largest noob cluster and try to keep them alive. Keep lights off their backs and shoot the guy flanking you in the face.

Stop trying to chase kills. Blow both the arms off that Dragon and all the armor off his torso and watch him run around a hill into your team? Let him go. They'll finish him. Turn back towards the atlas heading your way and keep him busy while your noobsquad learns how to kill their prey.

If your team sucks it's because you suck. It's YOUR TEAM. You dropped with them. If they fail you have as much blame to take as the guy who charged off alone. Use that guys suicide as a distraction, take advantage of it. Enemy went down the river and one Atlas on your team did too? Fine, rush the road with as many as you can while they feast on Rambos corpse. The boat is a crappy position when you're flanked.

If your team failed then it did so in part because you failed the team. Accept that, learn from it, move on. Being a jackass in chat only points out to everyone that you are, indeed, a jackass.

[Wolf Clearwater]

My favorite is the guy who wanders off in the opposite direction of the team, usually right after someone chats "stick together please", and then is pissed that he got nailed by the other team.

[Greyfyl]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2013 - 08:38 AM, said:

If your team sucks it's because you suck. It's YOUR TEAM.

Pointless post is pointless.

[MischiefSC]

Greyfyl, on 10 February 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Pointless post is pointless.

If that's the case then why so many 'GG', queue someone saying 'My team sucked' comments?

[Kaboodle]

There's only so much your suggestions can do. If you end up dropping with a team of unskilled players, versus skilled players, you'll lose. That pretty much goes without saying.

The matchmaking with ratings is coming. Move along.

[Cybermech]

its never my fault

[Kaspirikay]

Cybermech, on 10 February 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

its never my fault

Gentlemen, the first rule of internet gaming.

[Oni Ralas]

Lies! There *are* bad groups out there. You say something, they don't listen. It happens (even on comms).

Pug's should be pugs for a reason - sometimes you don't want to think, you just want to blow **** up.

[Ghogiel]

I always tell the team they suck when they do.


Happens a lot.

[Lorcan Lladd]

Yes, you should blame the enemy team instead...

[MischiefSC]

Sometimes you're going to lose. Sometimes your team is made up of noobs or people who just want to go be stupid for a bit and get killed.

The point though is that this sort of attitude, 'I'm awesome but my team sucks' is pretty much the core of the problem.

New players will get better.

Rambo players will either die so much self preservation kicks in and they start sticking with the group or quit.

Being a jackass though will probably take therapy or a lot of years of being ostracized to be resolved. Try to n i p it in the bud.

Elo will make a big difference. That doesn't change the fact that being a jerk in chat to your team and trying to place blame makes you a jerk.

Don't be 'that guy'. Play with the team you're dropped with. Not everyone is going to listen to your directions. If you're not leading then you need to follow. If people are not following you then you need to follow someone else.

Crying in chat about how it's obviously not your fault isn't impressing anyone or motivating anyone to play better. It's just getting people to remember your name as someone not to respect.

Edited because the filter blanks out n i p. Really?

Edited by MischiefSC, 10 February 2013 - 09:12 AM.

[Sug]

Last one to die, got 2 kills, we lose 2 to 8. Yep. My fault.

[Cybermech]

well sug, why didn't you just instant headshot them all instead of playing with your food

[Rift Hawk]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2013 - 08:38 AM, said:

I see this a lot and it irks me.

A team is just a group of players. Skill level varies in pug matches but you need to adapt to that. If you're only a 'good player' when you happen to be on a team of good players, the problem is you.

If you have a good team make sure you're part of the plan and not something they have to work around.

If your team doesn't seem to communicate much then you need to keep chat moving and make sure people know there is a plan and what it is.

If your team doesn't seem to follow plans or is all new, pick the largest group of them you can and support them - stop trying to lead if nobody is following. Follow the largest noob cluster and try to keep them alive. Keep lights off their backs and shoot the guy flanking you in the face.

Stop trying to chase kills. Blow both the arms off that Dragon and all the armor off his torso and watch him run around a hill into your team? Let him go. They'll finish him. Turn back towards the atlas heading your way and keep him busy while your noobsquad learns how to kill their prey.

If your team sucks it's because you suck. It's YOUR TEAM. You dropped with them. If they fail you have as much blame to take as the guy who charged off alone. Use that guys suicide as a distraction, take advantage of it. Enemy went down the river and one Atlas on your team did too? Fine, rush the road with as many as you can while they feast on Rambos corpse. The boat is a crappy position when you're flanked.

If your team failed then it did so in part because you failed the team. Accept that, learn from it, move on. Being a jackass in chat only points out to everyone that you are, indeed, a jackass.

I'm pretty sure when my team has me and 2 others do 400 + damage and get 3 kills and the rest of the team scatters to the wind and gets less than 100 damage and not even an assist.....its the team, not me.

Sometimes your argument may be true but not always. Most of the time, its the lack of teamwork to blame. The ones that stick together do things and the ones who don't, die and are worthless to the team.

[SPencil]

"If there's no 'I' in team, and no 'U' either, nobody is on the damn team. The team sucks"

Edited by SPencil, 10 February 2013 - 09:16 AM.

[Cybermech]

I don't stick with team and I don't loose much either.
flanking is a great tool but knowing when to push or pull back is key in my opinion.
Got nothing to do with blob tactics

[Ghogiel]

I don't see the problem in telling people they suck when they do.

lol psychological therapy from playing with bads in MWO, I would like to think people are losing their minds playing this game lol

[Lorcan Lladd]

Alright, now step down from that soapbox.
The ELO matchmaking patch is expected to arrive in the 19th and with any luck these complaints will be minimized once that happens.

[Sug]

Cybermech, on 10 February 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

well sug, why didn't you just instant headshot them all instead of playing with your food

ok

[MischiefSC]

Sometimes you're going to lose. Sometimes your teammates will make bad decisions.

The problem is acting like a jerk just makes you look like a jerk. If it makes you feel better to pretend that being a jerk in chat is some sort of public service or you're just 'telling it like it is' or whatever, well I hope that works out for you. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Play the team your dealt. If they gel and work like a team, awesome. If not then fall into a support role and do your best.

People will get better via experience and helpful advice and support. Not because someone decided to be an a s s hat in chat.

If Elo stops people being a jackass in chat because their team didn't do what they want it will be one of the signature accomplishments of the 21st century and I would vote to make it mandatory in all online human social interaction.