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[Wolf Clearwater]

Astroniomix, on 10 February 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

Don't stand still. Ever. If you have speakers/headphones go get on one of the public teamspeak servers. Even if you don't want to run in a group you can find people who will help you out with loading out your mech and give some general pointers on how to pilot.

Good advice here, Comstar has a free TeamSpeak 3 server anyone can use. It is a great way to meet other players.

na1.mech-connect.net

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

Codejack, on 10 February 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

Really? My Commando does quite well, especially for hunting other light ECM mechs.

It's a fairly skill intensive mech. Not for begginers.

[SI The Joker]

Ok you don't need to "join a team". I'm sorry to anyone who disagrees, but that's my point of view.

If you want to really learn how to play and win, here are 2 suggestions:

1. Join a teamspeak server. Comstar NA during "normal" US hours always has people on it -- good people who will help you and answer questions you may have.

2. Once on the teamspeak server... join the "Looking for Group" channel. You'll have the opportunity to join random groups of people who come to teamspeak or the so-called evil "premades" that exist out there. Either way - teamspeak is the way to go.

Give it a shot. You'll be surprised how well it usually turns out.

[Spheroid]

My suggestion is to add a second large laser to the right arm while stripping the armor from the empty left arm.

Install Endo, double heat sinks and CASE. AMS and Artemis optional.

Stay behind friendly assaults and heavies and focus fire to get kill assists.

Edited by Spheroid, 10 February 2013 - 09:36 AM.

[MischiefSC]

Rawrzor, on 10 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Uhm so how do i recognize the really good mechs. It's not like they have a tag with "this mech is **** avoid it" or "you will love this mech buy now".

Since your money income is fairly low i can't try all of them till i found a OP one.

I'm so with you on this. I bought a Centurion out of the gate because I loved them in TT, only to find I'd mounted a flaming bag of dog pucky. it can be heart breaking.

You can sell the mech for some of your money back but the question then becomes what to buy?

My advice is this - drop the MGs, pick up endo if you don't have it and with the extra weight add more lasers and HS.

Start following in the back of the group. After the fight starts, go shoot enemy mechs in the back. Learning to pilot a light mech well is the toughest thing in this game and being in a 4X puts you at a disadvantage. Instead what you want to do is help your team and earn points.

Backstab damaged mechs and try to help your assaults. Stay moving all the time, you'll live longer.

Save money. You'll want to buy a Catapult next. K2 if you want direct fire (I recommend it highly. 2x AC10s, or 2xuac5s and 3 LLS, it's got a lot of options and is very effective) or A1 if you want to missile boat (takes less skill and is more feast/famine, I don't recommend it as much) but that's going to be your next stop.

Don't feel pressured to join a team or TS3. If you want to, great! If not, no worries. Most of us don't.

[Adridos]

How on Earth can you earn 50 000 C-Bills, when the cadet bonus gives you +424,492 C-bills on your first match and then slowly decreases.

X+424,492>>>>50,000 - You might want to explain yourself.

[Codejack]

Astroniomix, on 10 February 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

It's a fairly skill intensive mech. Not for begginers.

Only because it's fragile, but fair enough; the Raven is much tougher.

[MischiefSC]

Adridos, on 10 February 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

How on Earth can you earn 50 000 C-Bills, when the cadet bonus gives you +424,492 C-bills on your first match and then slowly decreases.

X+424,492>>>>50,000 - You might want to explain yourself.

He's played about 50 matches, he's used it all up and bought a Raven 4x with it. If he lost almost all those games then yeah, he's not going to have a lot of cash. Sounds like horrible luck, probably played peak hours right after the patch. If you were not sync dropping with your buddies it was a bad time to play.

[Adridos]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

He's played about 50 matches, he's used it all up and bought a Raven 4x with it. If he lost almost all those games then yeah, he's not going to have a lot of cash. Sounds like horrible luck, probably played peak hours right after the patch. If you were not sync dropping with your buddies it was a bad time to play.

Still, the Raven 4X is cheaper than the 7mil+ you get from it. He should have enough money for at least a Hunchie, however, as he states, he is grinding for some mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

Didn't read any other replies, so if I reiterate something, *shrug*, it happens.

Simply put, it's a Beta that probably should not have hit Open Beta just yet. Or maybe only just be, since the last patch really fixed (for most people) some of the most egregious issues that had been plaguing the game, and it's ****** for a long frikking time.

I state that simply because there is a TON of content on the Roadmap, that we are not at yet. So to judge the game, in it's current state, would be using fallacious reasoning. The game can be downright frustrating, and at times, too repetitive.

This is exacerbated by the limited content in game currently. 4 basic maps, 3 alternate versions, all of which are smallish. Thing is, small maps are BETTER for testing, as it usually keeps player interaction more immediate. Too big a map, and you spend half of it wandering around, and that doesn't really tell the Devs anything. (Yes kids, even though it's "Open Beta" we are still here to squash bugs. Not just stomp our shiny robots! Though I sometimes forget that in the fun of stomping OTHER people shiny robots....)

What is overlooked also, and of course, doesn't really help with the "FUN NOW" factor, is how much parallel development is going on. Many maps and such we have not seen. An entire alternate set of Mechs, Factions, Economy Metagame, balancing and such for those Clan guys. (Do you really think the "Clan Invasion" is going to trickle into community warfare 1 mech at a time? ZOMG!!! The Clans are here.... and all they brought are Fire Moths!!!!!)

So, yeah, still way too early to judge the game, and like any F2P online title, it'll just keep growing even after the reach (official) Launch status. So the only person that can answer if it's worth playing and staying is you. I find that the game is equal parts addiction and frustration, and depending on what day you catch me, or sometimes even what time of the day, I can think it the most fun thing short of sex, or the most aggravating pile of poo ever.

And yet I keep coming back.

[Codejack]

Adridos, on 10 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

Still, the Raven 4X is cheaper than the 7mil+ you get from it. He should have enough money for at least a Hunchie, however, as he states, he is grinding for some mech.

3mil for Raven + 2.5mil for XL engine + 1.5mil for DHS....

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

I'm so with you on this. I bought a Centurion out of the gate because I loved them in TT, only to find I'd mounted a flaming bag of dog pucky. it can be heart breaking.

You can sell the mech for some of your money back but the question then becomes what to buy?

My advice is this - drop the MGs, pick up endo if you don't have it and with the extra weight add more lasers and HS.

Start following in the back of the group. After the fight starts, go shoot enemy mechs in the back. Learning to pilot a light mech well is the toughest thing in this game and being in a 4X puts you at a disadvantage. Instead what you want to do is help your team and earn points.

Backstab damaged mechs and try to help your assaults. Stay moving all the time, you'll live longer.

Save money. You'll want to buy a Catapult next. K2 if you want direct fire (I recommend it highly. 2x AC10s, or 2xuac5s and 3 LLS, it's got a lot of options and is very effective) or A1 if you want to missile boat (takes less skill and is more feast/famine, I don't recommend it as much) but that's going to be your next stop.

Don't feel pressured to join a team or TS3. If you want to, great! If not, no worries. Most of us don't.

Which cent variant did you get?

[MischiefSC]

Adridos, on 10 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

Still, the Raven 4X is cheaper than the 7mil+ you get from it. He should have enough money for at least a Hunchie, however, as he states, he is grinding for some mech.

Oooh, hunchie is a good choice! He may have upgraded his 4x with a new engine or played with some weapons. The sell-back rate on them is pitiful so any playing around in the mech lab leaves you shafted.

Get a hunchie full of lasers. Easier to get used to if you don't want to grind all the way to a K2.

[Wolf Clearwater]

By the time you put a bigger XL engine into a raven, upgrades, etc. it is easily way over 7 mil

[Tikkamasala]

Rawrzor, on 10 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Uhm so how do i recognize the really good mechs. It's not like they have a tag with "this mech is **** avoid it" or "you will love this mech buy now".

Since your money income is fairly low i can't try all of them till i found a OP one.

You can try http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab to get all the information about the different mechs.

[Carnivoris]

Bad troll is bad. You earn the Cadet Bonus, which will give you over 10 million cbills over your first 25 matches, so your numbers are bogus. How are you fighting? Are you just running in, head first, trying to kill everything yourself? No wonder you're dying to fast. Are you playing your role properly? Are you using all the tools available to you and focusing your fire on damaged mechs that are already in combat? No? Then you're doing it wrong.

Mange your heat, focus fire targets, let the Atlases move in and start taking damage THEN you come in and lay down DPS. If you run at the enemy team thinking you can do anything but die on your own, you're sadly mistaken. This is a team game. Work as a team.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Also, while not everyone is super sociable and doesn't necessarily like to talk.....getting on one of the public TS servers (like Comstar NA) and simply using the "looking for group" channel will get you with people. You'll get better by sticking together with them and hearing how they target....you'll learn a bit more about builds if nothing else by osmosis. You might even find an organization (clan, merc corp, potential house unit) that you click with and up joining....it's a team game and lone wolves at this point in the beta aren't well supported.

They might be in the future or have better opions available once community warfare goes live, but regardless of the fact that PGI is crowd-sourcing their game (i.e. taking money from players) WHILE in beta, it's still in beta.

Good hunting out there.

[Sug]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 February 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

(Do you really think the "Clan Invasion" is going to trickle into community warfare 1 mech at a time? ZOMG!!! The Clans are here.... and all they brought are Fire Moths!!!!!)

Yes. Yes I do.

[IceSerpent]

Rawrzor, on 10 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Uhm so how do i recognize the really good mechs. It's not like they have a tag with "this mech is **** avoid it" or "you will love this mech buy now".

Read the guides on the forums.

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Since your money income is fairly low i can't try all of them till i found a OP one.

You get around 8 mil from cadet bonus fairly quickly - first 25 matches iirc.

[Yokaiko]

Astroniomix, on 10 February 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

Best way is to ask around. Avoid commandos and any raven that isn't the 3L. Eventualy you will get a feel for what variants can be made into something useful and which ones can't.

As a master =3L pilot a COM-2D is about the only mech I worry about getting the drop in me, after that its game on.