19 replies to this topic

[RickySpanish]

That's right folks!

On Feb 19th PPCs are going drop ECM for 5 seconds!

OH NO!

You there, Atlas pilot! You're going to have to use cover and not use your face as a meat shield to get hit by stuff!

Any heavy or assault relying on ECM coverage from an Atlas is going to be required to not stand out in the open flailing around with a big "Shoot me! Oh please! Shoot me now!" sign on their chests.

Good heavens! I can hardly wait!

[Protoculture]

LRM Nerf ensues in 3... 2.. 1.

[Wizard Steve]

Get to cover lads, incoming nerd rage!

[NRP]

Noggins are OP.

In reality, I don't think the upcoming PPC change is going to have much of an effect. We'll see though.

[Broceratops]

tag does the same thing better.

[Protoculture]

Broceratops, on 14 February 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

tag does the same thing better.

Yes but at less than half the range. Expect more snipers. There is already a large increase in them since the PPC buff.

[stjobe]

NRP, on 14 February 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

In reality, I don't think the upcoming PPC change is going to have much of an effect.

Oh, I don't know. It might make me take out my ghetto Panther (ERPPC Commando) again, but now instead of being totally useless I can use it for anti-ECM duty.

[Novawrecker]

RickySpanish, on 14 February 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

On Feb 19th PPCs are going drop ECM for 5 seconds!

You there, Atlas pilot! You're going to have to use cover and not use your face as a meat shield to get hit by stuff!

Pfft, old news. They've been diving for cover since TAG and direct fire barraging became (semi-)standard. Tell us something new, not already done.

[Dishevel]

Broceratops, on 14 February 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

tag does the same thing better.

Tag drops ECM coverage for all the mechs in the area?
Tag is a single shot that makes every mech covered by the targets ECM targetable for the next 5 seconds?

Tag is not what you think it is.

[Gen Kumon]

To be fair, D-DCs are currently not all that hard to hit with dumbfired LRMs under 500 meters or so. That said, the quicker units using their ECM cover will certainly need to actually keep an eye out for when the bubble drops, which I can only think of as an improvement. Anything that forces people to maintain some level of actual situational awareness can only be positive for overall player skill in the long run.

[xX_Nero_Xx]

lol this is mwo noone thinks in pugs

[Soda Popinsky]

So I should use my mech's head to block LRMs?!

[BLUPRNT]

Is it really going to be that easy to hit a target with PPC, call target, obtain missile lock, account for missile flight time, hold missle lock, and make an impact in 5 seconds? I would love to see youtube videos of this accomplishment. Tag counters ECM and it still has a hard time maintaining LOS outside of 300M or get in closer without taking an a$$ whoopin.

Time yourself to see how long it takes you to just read what I wrote. Tell me what you think?

Edited by BLUPRNT, 14 February 2013 - 03:07 PM.

[MischiefSC]

I don't expect to notice in my D-DC. If I'm getting hit consistently ever 5 seconds by PPC fire LRMs are not what's going to concern me.

The tiny shift of 50m or so with XP and cash expensive modules isn't going to be significant. Anyone who's within 200m of a D-DC is going to be worried about more than a slight expansion in ECM penetration. Like AC20+SRM penetration of their armor.

So there's a virtually insignificant shift in ECM mechanics that may or may not have some sort of effect in some circumstances on pretty much 1 mech.

Wow. I'm full of tingles. My noggin is already starting to warm up.

[FactorlanP]

BLUPRNT, on 14 February 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Is it really going to be that easy to hit a target with PPC, call target, obtain missile lock, account for missile flight time, hold missle lock, and make an impact in 5 seconds? I would love to see youtube videos of this accomplishment. Tag counters ECM and it still has a hard time maintaining LOS outside of 300M or get in closer without taking an a$$ whoopin.

Maybe not, but I have a Cataphract that carries 3 ER PPCs... I'm pretty sure I can set them to chain fire and keep hitting every 4-5 seconds to keep the ECM down for a fair amount of time before heat ever becomes an issue.

Should be pretty easy to keep ECM down for a team mate in an LRM boat...

Shhh... There was that "team" word again...

Edited by FactorlanP, 14 February 2013 - 03:08 PM.

[TVMA Doc]

Protoculture, on 14 February 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

LRM Nerf ensues in 3... 2.. 1.

Although I don't doubt this, I've been grinding Atlas variants and have been working on the non-ECM versions. I've PUG dropped (PUG 100% of the time so far) MANY times with NO ECM and just having the AMS launcher seems to keep most of the LRM damage to a minimum.

I'm not saying that I take NO damage, I just don't see myself taking any more damage with LRMs than I do from energy or other ballistic weapons. I'm far more leery of the SRM cats, gaussapults, etc.

[Chemie]

IronEagle, on 14 February 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

be prepared to see more ECM to counter the PPC

Exactly, If you stand beside someone with ECM, you get their ECM coverage even if you get hit with PPC. That plus if you are getting hit by PPC, you should be doing other things anyway,

[BLUPRNT]

FactorlanP, on 14 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Maybe not, but I have a Cataphract that carries 3 ER PPCs... I'm pretty sure I can set them to chain fire and keep hitting every 4-5 seconds to keep the ECM down for a fair amount of time before heat ever becomes an issue.

Should be pretty easy to keep ECM down for a team mate in an LRM boat...

Shhh... There was that "team" word again...

I didn't say it would be impossible. And you can pull it off I've got a few LRM boats I would like to be your T mate with. But as it stands now I have a number of faster mechs with TAG on them and calling in for missle support doesn't come as easy as the OP makes it to be. Let alone trying in a 5 second window.

[AlexEss]

this forces me to ask two thing...

A: Can i get a SSRM lock in five seconds.
B: How suicidal would it be to put a PPC in my Jenner..

Naaaa.. But honestly i have a few synergy ideas specificity designed for hunting 3L´s now.

[TVMA Doc]

FactorlanP, on 14 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Maybe not, but I have a Cataphract that carries 3 ER PPCs... I'm pretty sure I can set them to chain fire and keep hitting every 4-5 seconds to keep the ECM down for a fair amount of time before heat ever becomes an issue.

Should be pretty easy to keep ECM down for a team mate in an LRM boat...

Shhh... There was that "team" word again...

At least until you overheat, shut down, and get cored by the streakcat teammate...