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[Team Leader]

Psikez, on 18 February 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

ER Flamers, you scared?

May The sweet Lord have mercy on our souls!

[Kahoumono]

I am sure clanners will love Alpine.

[Orgasmo]

Ultra AC 20, ER PPC with 15 dmg instead of 10, LRM 20 without minimum range, SSRM 6 boats. The pain train is coming alright.

Bring your best teamwork, because you're going to need it against the Clans.

[The Silent Protagonist]

I will feast on the cheesebuilds and drink the tears of those who complain about Clan LRMs. It shall be delicious.
In all seriousness, I kinda hope they make it unbalanced just because it would be hilarious to see the whining.

[Sug]

How would they balance Clan weapons? Pretty much everything but reload time is in TT.

[Tarman]

Kahoumono, on 20 February 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

I am sure clanners will love Alpine.

I hope I get a Kodiak one day. I'll bury it in the snow and jump out to ruin people like the GBL days. That would be so much fun.

KODIAK BASE KODIAK D:

Edit: Now I'm thinking about how kickburro a PGI Kodiak is going to be when the old one was cool-looking even back then. :E :E :E

Edited by Tarman, 20 February 2013 - 06:40 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

Timberwolf. cUAC/20s where the machine guns go. It's gonna happen.

[torgian]

Honestly, I wish they could have stuck with a succession war era style. Oh well.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

WolvesX, on 18 February 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

You shouldn't because they are not in the game yet, and PGI will have a concept to balance them.

and SLRMs
http://www.sarna.net...i/Streak_LRM-20

torgian, on 20 February 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Honestly, I wish they could have stuck with a succession war era style. Oh well.

then the cries of how the ecm is wrong with the timeline would be even more valid

Tarman, on 20 February 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

I hope I get a Kodiak one day. I'll bury it in the snow and jump out to ruin people like the GBL days. That would be so much fun.

KODIAK BASE KODIAK D:

Edit: Now I'm thinking about how kickburro a PGI Kodiak is going to be when the old one was cool-looking even back then. :E :E :E

[Commander Kobold]

ECM your argument it invalid..... but I do want me some clan LRMs them be perdy.

[Escef]

Sug, on 20 February 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

How would they balance Clan weapons? Pretty much everything but reload time is in TT.

Reload times are sorta' in TT: Solaris 7 dueling rules. Except you could override the delay and fire again, but with a chance of destroying the weapon, and guaranteed extra heat build up. Fast mechs with lots of small weapons and an excessive number of DHS were the way to go.

[Dmitri Valenov]

What I'm worried about is the Clan Streak's increased range. Streak 6 damage at 360 meters.

[Commander Kobold]

Royalewithcheese, on 20 February 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Timberwolf. cUAC/20s where the machine guns go. It's gonna happen.

I think the Timberwolf's miniguns are mounted in the center torso...so I doub't you'd have enough crits in there.

[Commander Kobold]

Dmitri Valenov, on 20 February 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

What I'm worried about is the Clan Streak's increased range. Streak 6 damage at 360 meters.

they'll probably nerf it down to srm range

Omni 13, on 20 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

they'll probably nerf it down to srm range

replace probably with hopefully***

[Utilyan]

I don't mind the whole balanced thing, but I think at least optionally i'd like a "historic" mode.

I love playing underdog. Not everyone is a chickensht .

You got to think like ARNOLD from THE PREDATOR........."IF IT BLEEDS........WE CAN KILL IT"

I guess i'm old school.

[FupDup]

Sug, on 20 February 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

How would they balance Clan weapons? Pretty much everything but reload time is in TT.

Well, for one thing a lot of Inner Sphere weapons (among other things) in-game are currently violating TT so that point doesn't hold much weight.


Also, there are other potential sneaky ways to go about this. For instance, maybe Clan lasers could have a longer beam duration (1.5s for a CERLL, 1.25s for CERML, 1s for CERSL, etc.). Ballistics could have a slightly slower projectile speed or something (slightly slower reload?). Missiles could have a slightly bigger spread (I once saw a suggestion for Clan LRMs to not be able to indirect-fire, which sort of ties in to Clanner-honor anyways).

Failing any of those, the pilot tree could be different for Clanners since they might not need to buy 3 variants of a chassis anyways. Maybe we could let IS mechs keep the static boosts (i.e. +10% speed) but make the Clanner tech tree oriented around changing weapon/equipment mounts? For instance, you could upgrade your energy hardpoint to a "direct fire" one (can hold a ballistic or energy weapon) or a "heat generating" (missile or energy). After you get both, then it becomes an omni (can hold any weapon). The hardpoint-oriented pilot tree thing assumes that Clan mechs would have single-type hardpoints by default just like IS battlemechs start with.

Edited by FupDup, 20 February 2013 - 07:06 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

Omni 13, on 20 February 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

I think the Timberwolf's miniguns are mounted in the center torso...so I doub't you'd have enough crits in there.

Haha they might be. It's been a while since I played MW2 lol. (And if they're in the LT/RT or something, it still probably wouldn't be a very viable build because IIRC the ears are also in the LT/RT.) But in terms of stuff that's considered cheesy ATM, the clans have a Mad Dog variant that's basically a gausscat right out of the box. You could probably fit 2 UAC/20 on there somehow haha.

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 20 February 2013 - 07:06 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Dmitri Valenov, on 20 February 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

What I'm worried about is the Clan

weapons and tech getting nerfed to be in line with IS weapons and tech

Royalewithcheese, on 20 February 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

Haha they might be. It's been a while since I played MW2 lol. (And if they're in the LT/RT or something, it still probably wouldn't be a very viable build because IIRC the ears are also in the LT/RT.) But in terms of stuff that's considered cheesy ATM, the clans have a Mad Dog variant that's basically a gausscat right out of the box. You could probably fit 2 UAC/20 on there somehow haha.

Alt. Config. C - The Mad Dog C greatly differs from the other configurations, having replaced its entire weapon load with two massive Gauss Rifles for a powerful long-range punch. BV (1.0) = 1,707^[2], BV (2.0) = 1,892

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mad_Dog

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 20 February 2013 - 07:08 PM.

[WolvesX]

Royalewithcheese, on 20 February 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Y'all freebirths better watch out.

[Hawks]

Imagine if we got the Bane 3, with its no-minimum-range LRM 120. Scary scary scary scary scary