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#1 Azuanite

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:28 AM

WTF is this shet, why is it the only equipment that can render entire mechs useless?... do they want everyone to play nothing but ECM mechs?.. cuz right now i find it impossible to play my catapult with all LRMs or streak SRMS when i can never get a chance to lock onto my enemies.

#2 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM

with ECM this is the first time in weeks I've been having real fun with the game.

You're just mad you can't mouse 1 to victory with lock on rockets anymore.

Edited by QuantumButler, 06 December 2012 - 01:31 AM.


#3 Horned Bull

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:31 AM

it only prevents your streakcat from being a "press LMB to win" mech. Now you have to use tactic and avoid people shielded by ECM or bring your own ecm. Or you have to use SMRs and actually aim.

LRM still works - spot for yourself or bring narc/tag equipped scout.


A well deserved change so game is fun again.

#4 Felix

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:32 AM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

with ECM this is the first time in weeks I've been having real fun with the game.

You're just mad you can't mouse 1 to victory with lock on rockets anymore.


Always cute when people roll out the

"My fun is more important than yours so [REDACTED]."

lines. Grow the [REDACTED] up

Edited by miSs, 06 December 2012 - 08:06 AM.
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#5 Muffinator

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

with ECM this is the first time in weeks I've been having real fun with the game.

You're just mad you can't mouse 1 to victory with lock on rockets anymore.

I'm mad because streaks were the only weapon I could hit with because of the lag. I've stopped playing now.

#6 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:34 AM

View PostFelix, on 06 December 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:


Always cute when people roll out the

"My fun is more important than yours so [REDACTED]"

lines. Grow the [REDACTED] up


Cool strawman bro.

#7 Naeron66

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

with ECM this is the first time in weeks I've been having real fun with the game.

You're just mad you can't mouse 1 to victory with lock on rockets anymore.


And you're just happy because your inability to counter rockets does not matter an more.

#8 Azuanite

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM

You know whats worse than this "press lmb" to win as you call streak cat?

Not needing to press anything to win

Thats what ECM are, renders any non ECM mechs useless but clearly you have more skill for spending a couple of bucks on a piece of equipment to make yourself invincible.

Edited by Azuanite, 06 December 2012 - 01:36 AM.


#9 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:36 AM

View PostNaeron66, on 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:


And you're just happy because your inability to counter rockets does not matter an more.


No, I'm happy I don't have to play WW1 Trench warfare simulators in a game about giant robots slugging it out with eachother in direct combat.

#10 Kyone Akashi

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:37 AM

View PostNaeron66, on 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

And you're just happy because your inability to counter rockets does not matter an more.
Apparently the same goes for people's inability to aim. :D

#11 Azuanite

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:37 AM

but i have been on forums long enuf and i know people would protect their OP little toys but admit it, that ECM will get nerfed for being the most broken equipment in the game.

#12 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:38 AM

View PostAzuanite, on 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

You know whats worse than this "press lmb" to win as you call streak cat?

Not needing to press anything to win

Thats what ECM are, renders any non ECM mechs useless but clearly you have more skill for spending a couple of bucks on a piece of equipment to make yourself invincible.


Direct fire, non lock on mechs can still shoot at ECM bro, what the hell are you smoking.

Oh no you have to use thermal vision to pick out targets at range or get close enough to lock on and the reticle flickers abit how horrifying.

Edited by QuantumButler, 06 December 2012 - 01:38 AM.


#13 Belkor

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:38 AM

View PostAzuanite, on 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

You know whats worse than this "press lmb" to win as you call streak cat?

Not needing to press anything to win

Thats what ECM are, renders any non ECM mechs useless but clearly you have more skill for spending a couple of bucks on a piece of equipment to make yourself invincible.


I just won another match on a team without ECMs while the enemy team had ECMs. I'm not seeing any of this "ECM overpowered" everyone is talking about. The only times I've lost was when my team scattered and got picked off.

Edited by Belkor, 06 December 2012 - 01:39 AM.


#14 Horned Bull

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:39 AM

View PostNaeron66, on 06 December 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:


And you're just happy because your inability to counter rockets does not matter an more.


Please tell me how to counter streakcat as a light mech ("avoid it" doesn't always work, as you might be out of luck to accidentally stumble upon it). Oh wait it kills you in two salvos. Not to mention it ripped apart pretty much everything on the field. In 270 meters it was the king of the field.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:41 AM

View PostKorm, on 06 December 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:


Please tell me how to counter streakcat as a light mech ("avoid it" doesn't always work, as you might be out of luck to accidentally stumble upon it). Oh wait it kills you in two salvos. Not to mention it ripped apart pretty much everything on the field. In 270 meters it was the king of the field.


If the streaks are the problem, why aren't we talking about fixing streaks?

http://mwomercs.com/...-dont-add-band/

#16 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:41 AM

View PostKorm, on 06 December 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:


Please tell me how to counter streakcat as a light mech ("avoid it" doesn't always work, as you might be out of luck to accidentally stumble upon it). Oh wait it kills you in two salvos. Not to mention it ripped apart pretty much everything on the field. In 270 meters it was the king of the field.


Yesterday for ***** and giggles I ran a streakcat backed up by my teammates in ECM mechs so they could counter all jamming.

Streakcats are still pretty much harbingers of doom if they partner up with ECM mechs.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:42 AM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 December 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

with ECM this is the first time in weeks I've been having real fun with the game.

You're just mad you can't mouse 1 to victory with lock on rockets anymore.


I agree,now streakcats dont got a win button anymore,people need to learn to stay out of the ECM range if they want to use weapons that require lock on, that or learn to use weapons that require you to actually aim.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:42 AM

View PostKobold, on 06 December 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:


If the streaks are the problem, why aren't we talking about fixing streaks?

http://mwomercs.com/...-dont-add-band/


Because they are fixed now. Still deadly if your team can field enough countermeasures and still viable if a streakcat's pilot is able to use tactic rather than just storming ahead.



View PostQuantumButler, on 06 December 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Yesterday for ***** and giggles I ran a streakcat backed up by my teammates in ECM mechs so they could counter all jamming.

Streakcats are still pretty much harbingers of doom if they partner up with ECM mechs.


and that's completely fine by me.

Edited by Korm, 06 December 2012 - 01:43 AM.


#19 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:43 AM

View Postpedropars, on 06 December 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:


I agree,now streakcats dont got a win button anymore,people need to learn to stay out of the ECM range if they want to use weapons that require lock on, that or learn to use weapons that require you to actually aim.


Or get in a premade and partner up with mechs using counter ECM.

#20 Holywar

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:47 AM

Personally I don't mind ECM, but I do think it is mostly broken.

LRMs are basically useless now. Streak Cats are nerfed as well, though that isn't a bad thing because they were annoying.

We drop in our pre-mades with 4-5 mechs with ECM. Ultimately you know something is broken when everyone is using it no matter what. Now LRMs could have used somewhat better counters, but ECM is a bit over the top.

Still don't mind. We just adapted our builds and we continue to clean up, but some balance should be applied to ECM, or some effective counters to it.





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