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#21 Broceratops

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:48 PM

WHERE AM I BRYAN EKMAN

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#22 Agent of Change

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostHRR Insanity, on 19 February 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:


/sighs/ Bryan, don't do this.

Now, everyone is going to want to know their % Elo ranking which will lead to the expect idiotic Elo-gaming behavior that keeping Elo HIDDEN was supposed to help avoid.

Remember this thread?? https://mwomercs.com...den-from-users/

Stop screwing yourself.


I agree so so much but the problem is there is a pavlovic response that now that i know it might be possible to know it I really really want to know it. I have no justification for this need nor any plans for what to do with such information.

The skinner box that is the internet has damned me. :)

Edited by Agent of Change, 19 February 2013 - 12:49 PM.


#23 Adridos

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

Well, kudos to you for being the elite of non-premades.

The ELO should match you lower after you get crushed too many times.

#24 Iron Frost

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostHRR Insanity, on 19 February 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

/sighs/ Bryan, don't do this. Now, everyone is going to want to know their % Elo ranking which will lead to the expect idiotic Elo-gaming behavior that keeping Elo HIDDEN was supposed to help avoid. Remember this thread?? https://mwomercs.com...den-from-users/ Stop screwing yourself.


Nah. Intentional or otherwise, responding to a single post with this information just made their lives far easier. Now any time someone feels as if they're getting stomped, they can automatically assume their up against better players - like that guy - and it will resolve over time (they'll also have their ego stroked considering who they're being matched with).

#25 xDeityx

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

View PostHRR Insanity, on 19 February 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Now, everyone is going to want to know their % Elo ranking which will lead to the expect idiotic Elo-gaming behavior that keeping Elo HIDDEN was supposed to help avoid.


What would an example of Elo-gaming behavior be? Since Elo rating is adjusted based on wins and losses, doing your best to win is the best way to increase your rating, no?

#26 Rippthrough

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:53 PM

Yeah, running new mechs or troll builds for a laugh now results in a wipe, have to bring your a-game all the time :)

#27 Taemien

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

If you're being matched against good players or premades, then your own skill got you there. Wanting it to be easier means you just want to play against lesser skilled players. Now I can only speculate on the teammate situation.

I think what is happening is that the matchmaker is placing you against skilled players (who are grouped and thus not split between teams) and then filling in your team with what is left over. Due to it not being primetime, you're not getting equal skilled teammates, you're just getting what is available.

Basically good solo players will get screwed during non-primetime. I did point out this would happen in other threads. A solution to this can't be done by PGI. They are catering to the new players who will have low ELOs and fight each other. The majority (at least out of those who are the most vocal) of the forum base wanted this as well.

The solution is simply to group with other good solo players. You don't need TS, but you do need to be in a group to mitigate getting lower ELO players into your team.

#28 Ayeman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

The waiting for matches SuXXXXX .. how shall a casual player lvl his mech .. when have to wait so long ... it def. takes toooooo long

#29 Ironbound

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

In case anyone still cares about the original content of the post, a few more games and things are looking a lot better.

#30 RagenBull

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

View PostAgent 0 Fortune, on 19 February 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

After enough soul crushing defeats, your elo will be so low you wont have to battle pre-mades ever again.


HA classic

#31 professorcurly

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

My ELO is so high I apparently broke the system and it refuses to find a game for me.

Hurray?

#32 KinLuu

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

View PostNathan Slayne, on 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

My ELO is so high I apparently broke the system and it refuses to find a game for me.

Hurray?


Play a chassis you never played before/not played since last patch.

Its like hunting rabbits in a pet store.

Edited by KinLuu, 19 February 2013 - 01:32 PM.


#33 Congzilla

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostBryan Ekman, on 19 February 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:


Your Light and Assault Elo scores are in the 98th percentile. AKA you are going to be matched against the best players.

Will our Elo score and percentile ever be listed in our user stats?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

Ha! Wait until you are higher Elo then! You get the 8-man premades AND you get outclassed for weight.

And on a personal note, I don't want to see my Elo. Makes me into a stat fanatic. Win/loss and KDR are bad enough for me.

Edited by Chunkylad, 20 February 2013 - 12:26 PM.


#35 Jaguar Prime

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

At least I know now that we have a different Elo for each weight class. That's good to know.

#36 Phalanx100bc

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:57 PM

ELO....making players consider using tactics and communicating with teamates and ditching the XBOX FPS mindset?

Sounds lime a good thing to me...

#37 Dr Hieronymous Alloy

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostBryan Ekman, on 19 February 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:


Your Light and Assault Elo scores are in the 98th percentile. AKA you are going to be matched against the best players.

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Wait, it tabulates by mech type? So if I go buy a new Raven I don't have to worry about getting my face pushed in constantly, since I've barely ever played lights before now?

All I know is I was getting absolutely *stomped* while the ELO matching was in. I suspect I've gotten far too used the inherent advantages of voice coms and group play -- even a moderately-organized team doesn't have to think too hard to win most matches in the current system. When & if ELO comes back in I'm going to have to really step up my game.

Edited by Dr Hieronymous Alloy, 20 February 2013 - 01:07 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:06 PM

View PostDeadlyNerd, on 19 February 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Yeah, and how exactly does that justify incredibad scores his team has? I thought elo was supposed to match up best vs best, not 1 good 7 atrocious vs 8 best.

Science

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostxDeityx, on 19 February 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

PSA: Elo is a man's last name, not an acronym.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Elo

Huh... Learn something new every day!

#40 Bilbo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostDr Hieronymous Alloy, on 20 February 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

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Wait, it tabulates by mech type? So if I go buy a new Raven I don't have to worry about getting my face pushed in constantly, since I've barely ever played lights before now?

All I know is I was getting absolutely *stomped* while the ELO matching was in. I suspect I've gotten far too used the inherent advantages of voice coms and group play. When & if ELO comes back in I'm going to have to really step up my game.

Depends on how good you actually are in it. If I used a light, I'd probably still get my face kicked in for a while because I'm nowhere near an average pilot in one. The beauty of the system is that over time your score will become fairly accurate.





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