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Ecm Feedback 2/19/2013

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#1 RANSARI

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

Because it has to be said. And... GO!

#2 Malicious1

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

Man, you jumped on this one quick Rans!

Time to see if my Phract 1x is useful now :)

Edited by Malicious1, 19 February 2013 - 12:52 PM.


#3 Twisted Power

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

Will try it out when I get home. Will play some 8 mans with My unit the Sea Wolves and we will see how it goes. Will post feedback in a few hours.

#4 StalaggtIKE

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Well I shall give my AS7-D-DC a whirl and see if I feel more vulnerable. LOL.
Next, go light hunting with my AWS-9M.
Really, I'm not expecting anything substantial.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 19 February 2013 - 01:24 PM.


#5 Alilua

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

Still too op. In all the matches I've played not one ecm mech has had it's ecm knocked out before being completely destroyed.

#6 Inertiaman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

The patch notes made me laugh. "I FOR ONE CAN'T WAIT TO DISABLE SOME ECMS WITH MY PPC DERP DERP".

I wonder how that's going.

#7 Asha Catari

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:03 PM

I only got to play the new map once but it seems to me that the team with more ecm devices gets to shower the enemy in lrms while the unfortunate enemy can only return fire with gauss cannon and er ppc. If this is true then ecm is even more overpowered on large maps than on small ones (dashing from cover to cover to get within brawl range does not seem to be possible on alpine map).

But, as I said, I only got to play alpine map once and could be wrong altogether.

#8 Aratan Aenor

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostAsha Catari, on 19 February 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

while the unfortunate enemy can only return fire with gauss cannon and er ppc.


Tell that to the PPC jumpers...

#9 Vrekgar

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:16 PM

ECM is still unbalanced. PPC cant counter the small raven problem. It doesnt last long enough to keep them offline and it also doesnt help when there are more than 1 source of ECM.

EMP only affects DDC who arent fast enough or are rolling solo.

#10 Caleb Lee

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:40 PM

View PostVrekgar, on 19 February 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

ECM is still unbalanced. PPC cant counter the small raven problem. It doesnt last long enough to keep them offline and it also doesnt help when there are more than 1 source of ECM.

EMP only affects DDC who arent fast enough or are rolling solo.


Pretty much what he said... as I mentioned in other posts, this is too little and maybe too late. Artemis was fixed right away, yet ECM continues to be OP.

Just had a match where enemy team had 3 lights with ECM and a DDC. Our PPCs had no effect as the ECM overlapped.

Also, the netcode is wonky again as lights were warping again. Something that wasn't there prior to the patch and I couldn't kill a single light with my UAC5s, not usually a problem, but with the extra jamming on them and now warping. Even when the lights did something stupid like shut down or run into the ship, they survived one way or another.

So no, ECM is still just as bad as it was prior to patch.

#11 Sable Dove

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

No ECM balancing, means no mech bays for me. Would like to buy some new slots, but I can't justify investing in a game where the developers refuse to acknowledge a huge balance issue.

NARC buff! Too bad the part they buffed is still crippled by ECM, and they threw in a nerf as well that isn't countered by anything.

Raven 3L and Commando 2D still demolish any other light. Or medium (though at least it matches mediums with other mediums, so you're not almost guaranteed to get a Raven on the other team).

#12 Vrekgar

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostSable Dove, on 19 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

No ECM balancing, means no mech bays for me. Would like to buy some new slots, but I can't justify investing in a game where the developers refuse to acknowledge a huge balance issue.

NARC buff! Too bad the part they buffed is still crippled by ECM, and they threw in a nerf as well that isn't countered by anything.

Raven 3L and Commando 2D still demolish any other light. Or medium (though at least it matches mediums with other mediums, so you're not almost guaranteed to get a Raven on the other team).


Matchmaker no longer forces equality of weight classes.

Edited by Vrekgar, 19 February 2013 - 03:05 PM.


#13 Inertiaman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:23 PM

Add a poll asking if people want this stickied. It's been the busiest thread in the last four patch forums.

#14 latdheretic

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

The PPC counter is working for me, I am able to hit ECM lights about half the time with them, and follow up with a volley of Streaks to mess them up.

I still feel that the game revolves too much around ECM, and that it is still a bit too powerful, but this patch was a huge step in the right direction.

Sadly It's such a pain to actually get a match that I looking at the forums rather than playing.

#15 Monky

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

From what games I've been able to get into, ECM seems as prevalent and gamebreaking as ever. Played with/without it for about 15-20 matches, increased my survival time/rate by 50% and due to longer up-time, drastically increased win/loss and damage done.

#16 Burning Chrome

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

ECM is still GEY.

Edited by Burning Chrome, 19 February 2013 - 05:51 PM.


#17 ICEFANG13

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

Yeah ECM is still unbalanced. Why not have it all be balanced rather then try to make a complex web of counters that in the end may be balanced?

#18 Inertiaman

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:09 AM

http://mwomercs.com/...rning-targeted/

Big grats for giving us something even more OP and annoying than ECM.

#19 Shield

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:46 AM

COME ON PGI, ACTUALLY FIX ECM!

We've given awesome ideas and examples, this thread continues to be the most active and they ignore it. It's to the point my expectations are always overshadowed by wondering what they have screwed up now. The game was wonderful and fun, but ECM is just a blight on the game in it's current deployment.

My game time is still going to be extremely limited and NO additional purchases of MC until they get their crap straight. There are too many games out there that are fun and don't have completely broken mechanics that are being ignored. How the hell they think that a 20m window to target a mech is a good idea is beyond me.

#20 Thorqemada

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:02 AM

Its all said about ECM - further steps need to be made and the "Anti PUG effect" as well the "Exclusive Weaponry effect" as well as the "Escalation of ECMs effect" has to be solved.

Though i find it very entertaining when people post in the forums about R3Ls calling them OP for having PPCs that disables their ECM.





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