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[Dimento Graven]

Tennex, on 20 February 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

correction* its as tall as an awesome. whats up with that?

Nothing... My first thought was "And?"

The "heighth" of a 'mech only has a small part in its weight.

A very tall, but slender man can weigh less than a shorter fatter/stockier one.

[Khobai]

What I think PGI needs to do is this...

Collect stats on how often each location gets hit on each mech. Do this for a while so you get a good average result.

Then redistribute the max armor values of each mech based on how often each location gets hit.

[Alex Wolfe]

Dimento Graven, on 20 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Nothing... My first thought was "And?"

The "heighth" of a 'mech only has a small part in its weight.

A very tall, but slender man can weigh less than a shorter fatter/stockier one.

...and is legged just as easily.

Once you make mediums the size of assaults, and lights the size of heavies, there will be problems.

Hitbox sizes are important, as the ever-present shadow of Catapult the MWO's God-Emperor is a constant reminder of .

Edited by Alex Wolfe, 20 February 2013 - 03:46 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

Ricky Cheung, on 20 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Interesting thread, I snapped a quick screenshot here for you guys:

http://imageshack.us...es/5/treas.jpg/

Hope this helps.
Depends if you want to count the Trebuchet's antenna or not

Maybe the cockpit in the trebechut just makes it look so tall then since it is at the top of the mech?

[Noth]

Dimento Graven, on 20 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Nothing... My first thought was "And?"

The "heighth" of a 'mech only has a small part in its weight.

A very tall, but slender man can weigh less than a shorter fatter/stockier one.

Well there was someone that did some analysis on this and it showed that the Hunchabck despite looking shorter and stockier was in fact not.

[Wolf Ender]

i like alex wolfe's size/scale suggestions

[Davers]

Enig, on 20 February 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Reposted as an image for the lazy.

That Atlas has a huge nut sack.

[Merky Merc]

Alex Wolfe, on 20 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Commando and Jenner, 10 tons difference, roughly same size

Jenner and Cicada, 5 tons difference, roughly 30% bigger

Hunchback and Trebuchet, no weight difference, roughly 20% bigger

No idea how MWO mech scale works. I appreciate that certain mechs have a bit more "meat on bones" and others are lankier, but there seem to be dramatic differences in what "5 tons" means in terms of mech looks.

I don't know how the scales work either, but I would imagine the HBK-BRO does a lot of bench pressing while the TBT just plays a lot of basketball in the MWO Rec Center.

[Monky]

One Medic Army, on 20 February 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

Trebuchet's super tall because he's a basketball player, just look at how he jumps.

I named my 5J Air Jordan, too bad the JJ's are useless on it lol.

[Merky Merc]

Monky, on 20 February 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I named my 5J Air Jordan, too bad the JJ's are useless on it lol.

You crazy, no one expects you to fling your mech at them like a half crazed monkey gundam.

[Watchit]

Yes, because height alone determines something's weight.

The M1 Abrams tank is 8ft high and is 67.6 short tons
While the M60 Patton tank is 10.5 feet and weighs 50.7 short tons

How do you explain that?

Edited by Watchit, 20 February 2013 - 07:56 PM.

[Merky Merc]

Watchit, on 20 February 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Yes, because height alone determines somethings weight.

The M1 Abrams tank is 8ft high and is 67.6 short tons
While the M60 Patton tank is 10.5 feet and weighs 50.7 short tons

How do you explain that?

Is it... density of materials?

[Noth]

Watchit, on 20 February 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Yes, because height alone determines somethings weight.

The M1 Abrams tank is 8ft high and is 67.6 short tons
While the M60 Patton tank is 10.5 feet and weighs 50.7 short tons

How do you explain that?

Width and length also come into it. The TBT is taller and wider than the Hunchback yet the same weight. It is thinner, but that doesn't make up the difference.

[Damocles]

three dimensional objects OHNOE

[At Least Three Bears]

I wonder now why we don't have a cockpit on a foot, or under the armpits. It's a good way to confuse poeple, some salamis are sold that way, so why not a mech. This remind me of that story of my grandfather that did a cartwheel once.

[Watchit]

Merky Merc, on 20 February 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Is it... density of materials?

Probably, but also because the M60 is a bit thinner and not as long as the M1

Noth, on 20 February 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Width and length also come into it. The TBT is taller and wider than the Hunchback yet the same weight. It is thinner, but that doesn't make up the difference.

Not saying everything is perfect, just that people who point at height only and say it's wrong is messed up. Also, the Treb has a thinner waist and legs I guess? And perhaps not as barrel chested as the Hunchback.

Edited by Watchit, 20 February 2013 - 06:35 PM.

[Tennex]

Ashnod, on 20 February 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

That's how it used to be before mw3/4 etc just look at the sizes in mech commander

i don't think MW4 has any of the scaling issues this game has.

mediums are not disadvantaged by having same hitbox size as 2 classes heavier mechs.

Edited by Tennex, 20 February 2013 - 06:47 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Tennex, on 20 February 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

can we get it next to an awesome

especially since he updated the post to reflect the awesome not the atlas lol

Watchit, on 20 February 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Yes, because height alone determines somethings weight.

The M1 Abrams tank is 8ft high and is 67.6 short tons
While the M60 Patton tank is 10.5 feet and weighs 50.7 short tons

How do you explain that?

magnets lol how do THEY work? Miracles!

bronsteijn, on 20 February 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

I wonder now why we don't have a cockpit on a foot, or under the armpits. It's a good way to confuse poeple, some salamis are sold that way, so why not a mech. This remind me of that story of my grandfather that did a cartwheel once.

thwere are torso mounted cockpits in TT lol

[One Medic Army]

Monky, on 20 February 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I named my 5J Air Jordan, too bad the JJ's are useless on it lol.

Tell that to all the atlases I jump over and behind.

[Tennex]

i'm pretty sure they just give mechs some arbitrary height.