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#441 Brody319

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 11:08 AM

Sell Atlases, Buy Stalkers
Feel good in your wonderful Assault mechs.

#442 Sarlic

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:59 AM

Up!

#443 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 10:21 AM

25% Armor increase for the Atlas

People should say "oh ****" when they roll up on an Atlas, and it already has some good firepower, it just needs to be tankier to survive brawls with big fish, or whales.

Edited by AntiCitizenJuan, 06 January 2015 - 10:22 AM.


#444 Mazzyplz

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

maybe a lower cooldown for their ballistic would be a good idea

#445 Johnny Z

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:10 PM

This morning after countless matches again Omni mechs I faced an atack from Innersphere battlemechs. Got 12 of them myself. IS mechs are solft and weak in comparison to Clan mechs. The two techs are not balanced at all yet, although the Thunderbolt is extremely strong at the moment, faced a team of those to last week or so....

All I can say is I hope they quit screwing around and get balance fixed.

The Atlas as well as MANY other IS mechs need extra armor or something because they are just soft and easy to take down with little firepower.


Balance as a whole and gameplay as a whole took a nose dive on the release of clans making 2 medium lasers which had previously been of some use as back up weapons, a complete joke and 2 medium lasers shouldnt be a joke. Thats the gist of the bad turn balance has taken and what has left from the excellent combat. This game still has excellent fighting but I hope they can get some of the pre clan combat back and stop playing FOTM with the players.

Edited by Johnny Z, 11 January 2015 - 03:14 PM.


#446 Flaming oblivion

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:16 PM

I see a atlas king crab or dire wolf and think the same thing.

I'm getting me a kill .

Foolish meta users in mechs that can barely move so easy to kill before they touch you in most cases ,

At worst you get your paint scratched

Its not atlases

Its assaults,

Way to slow. Impossible to miss.

Circle jerk them play the range game . Jump in and out of cover. indirect fire . Their just helpless.

#447 Sahoj

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:28 PM

I bought a STK-Misery and feel like all my Atlases immediately became obsolete.

#448 Decoy3

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:36 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 04 January 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

I drive a DDC since starting right when open beta came. It was my go to grind mech with a few million xp on it.. Now I am mastering Dires and crabs and they both without the extra module slot are my go to grind mechs far above and beyond the Atlas.

I think they need to open up both torsos to ballistics. The one torso ballistic is their greatest weakness. I aim for that torso before any other and so does anyone else who has been playing longer than a week.

It's a good thing SRMs are working now.

I used to feel a touch of guilt shielding with my left torso, and depriving my teammates of ECM in order to protect my AC20. Now I don't really care which torso takes the hits, and roll evenly. But then again, since I'm running the -S I don't have ECM to lose.

#449 Lily from animove

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:43 PM

am I the only one piloting and liking 2 LBX 10 on the D-DC?

Edited by Lily from animove, 11 January 2015 - 03:44 PM.


#450 Davers

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:45 PM

View PostMazzyplz, on 11 January 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

maybe a lower cooldown for their ballistic would be a good idea

Well, with an Atlas you kind of want all your weapons on the same cool down to better utilize the 'alpha/shield/alpha' technique. Having an AC/20 that cycles faster than your SRMs doesn't help it very much.

#451 El Bandito

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:48 PM

View PostDavers, on 11 January 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

Well, with an Atlas you kind of want all your weapons on the same cool down to better utilize the 'alpha/shield/alpha' technique. Having an AC/20 that cycles faster than your SRMs doesn't help it very much.



Then give Atlases both AC20 and SRM6 cooldown quirks. I want to see the Atlas firing AC20 as fast as this guy. ;)


Edited by El Bandito, 11 January 2015 - 03:48 PM.


#452 Lily from animove

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:52 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 11 January 2015 - 03:48 PM, said:



Then give Atlases both AC20 and SRM6 cooldown quirks. I want to see the Atlas firing AC20 as fast as this guy. ;)





not if they deal the same damage as in the vid xD

#453 kapusta11

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 04:02 PM

Add Rotary ACs, it can pack two of them, oh wait, forgot about the time line, it's a fictional world history simulator game after all.

#454 Sarlic

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:15 AM

Bringing this thread once to attention.

#455 Wolfwood592

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:18 AM

Fix my Atlas nerdz!

#456 That Dawg

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:00 AM

The "cure" will NEVER happen. The easiest, simplest thing to do, segregation.
IS mechs never see clan mechs.
Screw TT, screw Lore (and those who wave that banner like a bible..seriously its a big stompy robot game, as the guy who's name owns it)

Clan mechs fight clans
IS mechs fight IS

STOP this insane "balancing" attempt...you're just messing up what were perfectly excellent mechs, and creating monsters that never were!

CONTINUE to release both IS and CLAN mechs
maybe every so often have a tournament where IS meets Clan....like those reenactors who do WWII, or Civil war stuff...
but drops and pugs, stop trying to create a "level" battle field...you accomplish neither balance or fun..
why not give the atlas 4 AC20's, and restrict the engine, and make it shorter and take its ecm..so, you know, its like a direwolf!

they dont have the player base, the server ability, and fear backlash from "the community" to even suggest it.
Have 2 (oh my god, wut?) yes, TWO timelines supporting the mechness, or the mechistory.

#457 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:03 AM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 04 December 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

Even post-quirk, piloting an Atlas simply puts your team at a huge disadvantage because you're taking up a Direwolf slot.

But, you say, "Atlases can outbrawl direwolves!"

Let's assume that this statement is true (it's not), brawling range is 270 meters for an atlas with AC20 and SRMs. I will admit that this is by far the best way to run an atlas. However, the combination of slow speed and short range means you don't really get to engage in your effective range unless you have an entire team that's willing to back you up. This is compounded by the fact that UAC direwolves out-DPS atlases at all ranges regardless of build.

So let's say you want to build an atlas that can fight back. That means equipping ranged weapons in low-slung torso and arm hardpoints, or filling your missile hardpoints with LRMs. LRM assaults put the team at a disadvantage because you're wasting your high armor capacity, and the low-slung hardpoints mean you pretty much always get the second shot, or no shot at all, against targets engaging from range, and you can't use cover effectively.

Atlases simply have no effective role in this game when compared to a Direwolf taking the same spot.

I keep seeing this Post from teh cockpit of my Atlas-S and shake my head as I hunt Dire Wolves... I just don't get it.

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:08 AM

A boost to torso structure would be nice, maybe an excessive one at that, because you almost always lose that torso completely before even a single weapon gets knocked out.

#459 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:09 AM

View PostMister D, on 13 January 2015 - 06:08 AM, said:

A boost to torso structure would be nice, maybe an excessive one at that, because you almost always lose that torso completely before even a single weapon gets knocked out.

I don't need a boost, I just need a dire wolf to shoot at.

#460 Lily from animove

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:14 AM

View PostMister D, on 13 January 2015 - 06:08 AM, said:

A boost to torso structure would be nice, maybe an excessive one at that, because you almost always lose that torso completely before even a single weapon gets knocked out.

this is an entire matter of the whole mwo design, I say half armor, double internals, weapon destruction happen way too rarely with the general low amount of structure mechs have.
I was surprised as my nova got a single laser destroyed on weekend since this is such an rare event.

Edited by Lily from animove, 13 January 2015 - 06:15 AM.






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