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So What Is The Point Of The Mist Lynx Now That The Ac Literally Does Everything Better?

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#1 Aiden Skye

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:13 PM

The mist lynx was already bad. But I still used to run it for grins. But now that the AC is here boating tons of lasers. What is the point of this mech and why would it ever be run?

-AC has way more hardpoints
-More armor
-Better hitboxes
-Also has ECM
-Runs faster

I hope the balance pass introduces features / address situations like this where one mech totally makes another pointless in every single way. Lights should not be just about how many small lasers you can boat....

#2 Deathlike

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:16 PM

Um... it's a symbol of PGI's balancing woes?

It's great nostalgia.

How about CAP removal? That would be something worth aiming for!

#3 Charronn

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:24 PM

Power creep at it's best.
Cash grap ftw.

#4 Milocinia

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:26 PM

It's just here to make up the numbers?

I dunno but yeah, it literally has zero use, functionality or reason to exist right now.

#5 Mcgral18

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:27 PM

Don't forget better quirks on top of better everything else.

#6 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:32 PM

mist lynx can remove that stupid probe when?

mist lynx gets tinier not so ugly weapon pods on the arms when

mist lynx gets better quirks (a summoner like speed quirk, heat gen quirks) and possibly another version with some torso energy hardpoints for better builds when

all the lights get 10 true dubs when

#7 Alistair Winter

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:35 PM

I hear the Mist Lynx will be great for PVE.

Equip MGs and flamers on it. Or the AC2.

#8 Aiden Skye

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:36 PM

Mist links also has terrible load-out options if you run ECM on it. No such thing on the AC. I think the Mist lynx should at least have a huge speed advantage.

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:37 PM

View PostW A R K H A N, on 04 August 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

-AC has way more hardpoints
-More armor
-Better hitboxes
-Also has ECM
-Runs faster


also note that ach has ecm in the torso while mlx in the arm... and picking that ecm arm lynx forfeits any chance to pack even 4 lasers

on top of the cake ach has a better cockpit with a significantly better view

#10 AlphaToaster

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

Right now the Mist Lynx' primary roll is allowing a heavier drop deck.

Other than that I can't figure out another reason to keep them.

#11 Monkey Lover

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

Whats the point of a locust if firestarter does everything better :P

Whats the point of a summoner when timber does it better
Whats the point of IS mechs when clan does it better lol

#12 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 04 August 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

I hear the Mist Lynx will be great for PVE.

Equip MGs and flamers on it. Or the AC2.

You won the thread.

#13 AEgg

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

The MLX jumps better than just about any other mech. So there's that, and it's weight, and that's about it.

#14 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:59 PM

View PostAEgg, on 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

The MLX jumps better than just about any other mech. So there's that, and it's weight, and that's about it.

The Spider, Vindicator, Shadow Cat, Griffin, and Wolverine can jump better than it. The problem is, most are better off not mounting that many JJs, and the Mist Lynx is no different.

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 03:06 PM

Most of the crap people suggest for 'fixing' the Mist Lynx doesn't actually fix the Mist Lynx.

Remove its hardwired CAP, give it an extra 10% speed boost quirk, give it torso energy?

Guess what - the Cheetah is still 100% superior to the Lynx in all ways and forms. More weapons, better weapon/ECM placement, still faster, still better pod space...all of those fixes result in a 'Mech which is simply a bit less crushingly inferior to the Cheetah without actually giving it a role the Cheetah doesn't handily outdo it in.

Better idea - give the Mist Lynx some hardcore bonuses to things like its hardwired probe. Double the ECCM range for the Lynx, double the TIG bonus. Give the Lynx something like four 'Mech module slots. Give it a role, albeit a very narrow one, as the superior reconnaisance/IW 'Mech, when Paul gets around to rebuilding IW the way he's promised to do.

Nothing you can do to the Lynx will ever make it anything but an embarrassment as a combat light now that the Arctic Cheetah's here. Make it an EW platform instead and at least it has a job the Cheetah can't do, even if that job is narrow and generally not desired by many.

#16 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 03:07 PM

View PostAEgg, on 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

The MLX jumps better than just about any other mech. So there's that, and it's weight, and that's about it.


nope, it's a shame, but lynx lost even that

45 tonners shadowcat and vindicator 1aa, even 55 tonners griffin 1n, 1s, 3m, sparky, and wolverine 6r, 7k, quarantine jump better than lynx since the class 4 jj buff

anyway ach jumps not that much worse than mlx

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 03:21 PM

Lesser Clan mechs should be converted to IIc chassis thus making them frontline again.

#18 Alex Morgaine

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 04:18 PM

View PostRyokens leap, on 04 August 2015 - 03:21 PM, said:

Lesser Clan mechs should be converted to IIc chassis thus making them frontline again.


Sarna said:

Formation Classifications[edit]

The Clans rank their units into a series of categories based on intended role, skill and equipment level. Front-line units, always composed of trueborns, are the primary assault forces of the Clans. They utilize the best resources the Clan has, organized into combined-arms formations - OmniMechs, OmniFighters and Battle Armored Elementals - and assigned the most important missions in a campaign.[61][62][63]
Second-line units are a Clan's reserve and garrison force, used to hold ground taken by front-line units or to attack secondary objectives. These forces typically consist of trueborn warriors less skilled or who have aged past the point where they are still worthy of serving in front-line units, and while not given the latest equipment many still possess Omni technology and given good logistical support. A step down from second-line units, though in the same category, are provisional garrison units. These forces are held in the rear to clean up after front- and second-line units and hold less-important targets. Such units rarely use Omni technology or battle armored Elementals, instead making due with conventional BattleMechs and aerospace fighters, along with combat vehicles and unarmored infantry. Some Clans make no distinction between second-line Clusters and Provisional Garrison Clusters (PGCs), leading to a larger reserve force with admittedly greater inequality between units. Freeborns, regardless of skill, are assigned to second-line units if a Clan allows them to serve as warriors.[61][62][63]
Lastly are solahma units, the proverbial bottom of the barrel. Equipped primarily as infantry units, occasionally with outdated vehicles or 'Mechs, they are given the least prestigious assignments like bandit hunting. Consisting of aged or disgraced warriors these units may occasionally be ordered, in the face of overwhelming odds and near-certain death, to hold a location or attack an enemy as part of a major campaigns. A Clan planet's defense militia force will consist of solahma units.[61][62][63]


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Posted 04 August 2015 - 04:26 PM

View PostW A R K H A N, on 04 August 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

So What Is The Point Of The Mist Lynx Now That The Ac Literally Does Everything Better?


Mlynx is now a legit ride for Hipsters!

#20 IronLichRich

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 05:07 PM

To give you 5 extra tons in your drop deck. It's an omni that lost the equipment lottery.





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